M+M M10X a holiday miracle

CyprusTM said:
How do you figure they sell cheaper here than in the US? some dealers are dumping them for 1050USD (meaning they either got them for that or less) probably because no one is buying them, and it seems M+M is trying to make up for it at our expense.
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Also, they make their own barrels from generic blanks. It doesn't cost m&m anything to make a longer barrel.
 
bfiles said:
Didn't the BCL 102 up their prices after people pre 0rdered and then those rifles didn't come with any mags!?!?

Yet people have no clue on what's even going on yet and they are already demonizing Wanstalls, CanAm and M+M
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All the bcl102 first pre-orders shipped with mags.
 
Claven2 said:
Also, they make their own barrels from generic blanks. It doesn't cost m&m anything to make a longer barrel.
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And correct me if I'm wrong, but the actual platform doesn't require (and wasn't submitted via FRT) with any modifications. Meaning aside from the longer generic barrel, it's a standard production model M10X. While there may be some additional overhead with serving a new market (support, export / import fees, duties etc.), I'd love to see M+M justify a pricing increase that is anything $100 north of the original Wanstalls pre-order price.
 
Chargerguy said:
If I was Alex Robinson I'd be working hard to cut costs on the XCR-L as fast as possible right now, like the XCR-M summer sale pricing a dealer had, and compete against the M10x at whatever the inflated price may be.
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RA would have to pay me to own one of their rifles after all the issues I experienced with the XCR
 
I've commented on this, and was told that wolverine would check with Rob Arm (specifically about barrel and upper pricing), but never heard anything back. Competition can't hurt and I'd like to see where the xcr is going. I posted a bit of rant over on another forum recently, they sure could benefit from some marketing, publishing accuracy standards, preferred loads and real world endorsement.

Chargerguy said:
If I was Alex Robinson I'd be working hard to cut costs on the XCR-L as fast as possible right now, like the XCR-M summer sale pricing a dealer had, and compete against the M10x at whatever the inflated price may be.
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xdmer said:
Oh guys, come on now, must you always crap over every xcr reference that comes up.
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Ive owned almost every NR black riffle, The XCR was one of the worst just after the T97. I never said it was crap I just pointed out that I dont see them flying off the shelf anytime soon with the release of the 102's... lol...
 
My mistake.

I think the XCR-L/M is severely misrepresented on this forum and I don't think it's in the same market as the 102. If someones is just looking for a black nr semi 308, then the 102 fits the bill. They're also not comparable on many levels, in my opinion.

What made it one of the worst? I'm assuming you mean in the accuracy / precision department?

DILLIGAF said:
Ive owned almost every NR black riffle, The XCR was one of the worst just after the T97. I never said it was crap I just pointed out that I dont see them flying off the shelf anytime soon with the release of the 102's... lol...
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When I got my robinson arms in x39 I have had no issues with it whatsoever, its been an outstanding rifle and quite accurate for the 7.62x39.
My only gripe was that it cost $2500 when I bought it and the ar sitting next to it was $1000
 
xdmer said:
My mistake.

I think the XCR-L/M is severely misrepresented on this forum and I don't think it's in the same market as the 102. If someones is just looking for a black nr semi 308, then the 102 fits the bill. They're also not comparable on many levels, in my opinion.

What made it one of the worst? I'm assuming you mean in the accuracy / precision department?
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I think the issue is people basing their opinions on early gen models and not the newest gen that operates well, fairly accurate and is balanced better
 
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