M&P 15 movement between upper and lower
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Midnight Rider
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- ......the Vanishing Point .
Its pretty normal....go shoot , and enjoy .
Sea Monkey
Regular
- Location
- South Coast of Upper Canukistan
How else do you bring a Norinco into spec?
Heh - oh, I don't know about that...my DA is as snug as a bug in a rug. Maybe that would change if I cleaned it
but for now, no noticeable movement at all.
So much for good engineering, production and QC.... Reverse questions would be:
- does design specify that there should be a play and gap?
- is the gun with gap better protected from elements than the one with proper fit?
- in terms of aiming/accuracy/handling which system is better, the one with wobbling joint or stabilized with no movements? (mind that you lean stock to your shoulder, not upper)
- in terms of reliability under constant stress which system is better, the one with wobbling joint or stabilized with no movements?
Of course minor wobbling won't have any _great_ effects, however comparing quality of manufacturing of modern firearm with 100 year old mass produced center fire rifles, MGs and semis I cannot stop wondering why it's call progress and why we have such low expectations.
- does design specify that there should be a play and gap?
- is the gun with gap better protected from elements than the one with proper fit?
- in terms of aiming/accuracy/handling which system is better, the one with wobbling joint or stabilized with no movements? (mind that you lean stock to your shoulder, not upper)
- in terms of reliability under constant stress which system is better, the one with wobbling joint or stabilized with no movements?
Of course minor wobbling won't have any _great_ effects, however comparing quality of manufacturing of modern firearm with 100 year old mass produced center fire rifles, MGs and semis I cannot stop wondering why it's call progress and why we have such low expectations.
Still alive
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
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- Rainy mosquito infested part of BC
Tight tolerances does not always equal reliability. Accuracy, likely yes, but not always reliability.
blaxsun
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
It's an AR15. Just like the 'twangy' spring sound, some things just carry over with each successive model.
and away we goThe accu wedge is a complete waste of time and effort and offers absolutely zero tangible gain. Clever marketing to ill informed people is what makes them sell and that includes to our military and others. Much like the forward assist that was required by the US Army even though no one(with any level of intelligence) uses it.
blaxsun
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
AR15s are akin to LEGO: You don't have to like or use every last piece in the box. I'm certainly not going to knock someone for trying or wanting something different - it's what has kept innovation going, ie: Keymod/M-LOK rail systems, enlarged trigger guards and flared magwells, ambidextrous controls and charging handles, the myriad of pistol, vertical grips, handstops and other rail attachments, folding and offset BUIS, the wide range of PDW, collapsible and precision stocks along with varying buffer tubes, springs and dampening and last but not least, the never-ending assortment of flash hiders and muzzle brakes.
Mumbles Marble Mouth
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- Lower Mainland
Just how tight is a tiger?
Not my opinion just sound logic. Milspec is a standard, without a standard to adhere to everything else is a c@p shoot. Milspec is what servicemen use to defend themselves and our freedom. Difficult to find fault with it for lesser roles.
Yes the forward assist is useless. If you had attended any reputable courses/classes or simply thought about your manual of arms you would understand this.
