I'm at the range and my buddies M&P 9 has a stuck case that failed to eject. We can't get the slide to open so it can eject. I guess the slide is stuck and not really the case. Any idea on how to get the slide to open , so we can remove the empty case? Thanks OK , I just forced the slide back, any idea what caused this?
M&P 9 with a stuck case?
- Thread starter Brianma65
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factory or reloaded ammunition?
Brass rod from the muzzle end will help solving those kind of problems afterwards...
(Insert rod, press tip of rod against firm surface to force the case out of the chamber).
Can also be used with a small hammer to drive squib projectiles out of the bore.
In the case of a squib, field strip and drive from the barrel breech end.
Good ammunition is the usual preparatory fix.
Brass rod from the muzzle end will help solving those kind of problems afterwards...
(Insert rod, press tip of rod against firm surface to force the case out of the chamber).
Can also be used with a small hammer to drive squib projectiles out of the bore.
In the case of a squib, field strip and drive from the barrel breech end.
Good ammunition is the usual preparatory fix.
if you cant get the slide to open because of a stuck casing in the chamber, depending if you have a plastic rear sight or metal rear sight (as I am not a M&P guy), place, the rear sight on the edge of the table or something firm and give it a firm tap on the grip. Should force the slide to open. We had to do something similar to CZ handgun.
3 out of 400 is totally unacceptable, whoever reloaded that ammo needs to stop and revisit their procedures before something truly hideous happens. Seriously, that's frighteningly poor performance. Is the individual post sizing, crimping, checking his charges? I'm not saying bad reloads don't happen, but that rate is out to lunch.
A light taper crimp was used and the charges were checked every 10 rnds for weight. I loaded a few hundred myself , before him, and I didn't have any issues. I did notice from looking at a couple of his reloads , that they were snug in the chamber, you could almost detect a slight bulge in the base of the case.
Something is wrong with either the sizing, or the bullet size. Post sizing increases the reliability of the ammo, literally resizing the loaded round. The Lee Factory Crimp die is the cat's for reliable reloads and accomplishes the same thing. It also allows a heavier crimp without buckling the case.
You've described two different scenarios. In your first post, "we can't get the slide to open", in which case clear the pistol of all remaining ammo, then hit a front surface of the slide on something (so the front end of the slide, or the rear of the ejection port, or the rear sight (last resort). Ideally, if you have a brass rod and hammer, have someone hold the lower as securely as possible, then hit the brass rod against the rear edge of the ejection port. A solid rap will spring the extractor off the case, and allow you to disassemble the pistol, to rod-out the brass.
However, if "Upon firing the slide traveled back , but did not extract the empty case", then you should still be able to disassemble to the barrel, and pull the brass out by rodding it.
If you wind up with case head separation, you probably don't have to tools to grab the case walls to extract (gunsmith).
woodenpigeon
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How hot are you loading? If it chambered and fired fine, but then the case stuck in the chamber, it would seem that they must be on the dangerous side of warm.
Both scenarios happened , first stuck case I had to force the slide back , second and third cases , the slide came back but didn't eject. ( he pryed the cases out with a screw driver)We both loaded 400 rnds using the same nickle and brass cases , 115g plated bullets,5.1g of CFE pistol. I also had a few bxs of sellier & ballot 115 g and they felt much hotter than the reloads. And the 3 cases looked normal after inspection. I got him to take his remaining cartridges and drop them in the chamber , a few more were snug and didn't remove as easy as the rest. Is it possible that a few of the cases were to long? Also , some of the nickle cases didn't really need to be flared open, they were able to seat a bullet ,right after resizing .( they appeared just a touch wider than the rest.
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Are you using a case gauge after loading ?
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I would.. and do
I'll look into that , thanks. I've been googling the issue, and came up with "glocked" or oversized cases. As the problem case are nickle once fired range brass , this may be the issue. The cases do have a slight bulge at the base .
That could be an issue - most, if not all, resizing dies won't resize the very bottom of the case. If the bulge is bad enough, it could do what you're experiencing. It's common enough that there's a die just for this.
We devided the cases into 2 equal parts, nickle and brass. I made mine first and then he made his, using the same dies and press. We both fired equal amounts of loaded ammo with our M&P 9,s . Brass cases were fine, he had the issues with his gun and 3 rnds of nickle cased ammo. I've just inspected all the cases , nickle and brass. The nickle cases appear to have a slight bulge, about an 1/8 inch from the rim. Maybe it's best we dump the nickle cases? His gun is also the first time we fired it, it previously had 50 rnds through it. I'm on my second thousand reloads with my gun, with no issues other than a few light primer strikes. I chalk that up to bad primers , because when I opened the new pack, half were missing. I'm guessing they were spilled out .
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