M&P 9mm Help !

loonz84 said:
Anyone tell me if this is a serious sugguest before I screw up my new 650$ pistol ?
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It works for me, you won't break it.

There is a thread about getting hold of the pinned mags, can't remember the company name but I believe he is ordering a load?
 
loonz84 said:
Anyone tell me if this is a serious sugguest before I screw up my new 650$ pistol ?
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I know this will sound strange, but I'm speaking from experience on this, you won't screw up your pistol. I have done things to the same type of pistol that you wouldn't even consider, and it's still running just fine. These are duty pistols, they're made to ride around all day in a holster, banging off car doors, being sat on, having people go prone on them, getting dropped on concrete and gravel :)eek:), having gear bags dropped on them and generally being rough housed. It will take anything you dish out (short of the firearms worst enemy - the Dremel Tool) and still look good and shoot well. I had an experience with freezing rain (the gun was cased in a thick layer of ice) that taught me all I needed to know about the M&P9 - one smack on the table (to loosen the ice around the trigger), one pull of the trigger and the ice blew off the pistol, which continued to function perfectly. 20,000 rounds later, apart from scratches in the mag well, the gun looks and shoots like new, I've dropped it (cold hands, no gloves) in a puddle, on gravel - pick it up, it goes bang. It is exceedingly hard to screw up an M&P, and very easy to fix if you do.
 
It worked

hey guys got the 10+1 going with a good smack , brought it home from the range after putting 200 rounds through it, disassemble the gun and gave it a good clean. when I put it back together i noticed with the slide back the barrel has a slight rattle is this normal? i do not remember the rattle being there before or there being play in the barrel. someone help cant shoot it again til i figure this out thanks
 
Trimming the follower with a knife is easy and shouldn't take too long. It made it much easier to load a full mag (10 rounds) into the M&P with a closed slide. Also, unless you trim off an excessive amount of the follower there is no way you're going to even get close to getting that 11th round in.
 
Just trim the tabs as suggested, but always seat your mags like your trying to push them past the bottom of the gun. On a closed slide you have to depress the entire mag stack. It's just as stated, that most of the canadian mags are made to take a 10th round and not one mm more. So they can be a ##### to seat, especially when new. You won't hurt em slamming them in. But if you just sand or carve a mm off the bottom of the followers as suggested life is easier. Normal mags pinned to 10, or a 40 cal mag used with 9mm both seat much much easier. The normal mag pinned will also load easier as well as an extra bonus.

Pretty much ever single pistol using made for canada 10 round short tube mags has this issue, though some are worse then others.
 
Think what you're doing here and listen the the guys who say to trim a bit off the follower legs.

Older followers are a tenth shorter than the new ones, the mag spring is weaker, too, which makes everything easier.

I have to disagree with the 'use brute force' crowd. In a normal mag the top round has some give in it so that when the slide moves to the rear it can pop up to be in the way of the slide as it moves forward and therefore push the cartridge into the chamber.

If there is no movement of the top round, as in your mags, the loaded mag is too long for the space it wants to go into. If you hit the base of the mag to force it to lock in something has to give. Whether it is strain on the slide rails, jamming the mag spring coils together or damaging the ammunition.

If you are into action shooting and you do a quick reload without using all your spinach induced Popeye strength and the mag doesn't seat properly you are going to look a bit silly when it drops out as you fire the next round.

I have seen this happen multiple times with our duty mags and queried it with my boss. The query went up the line apparently all the way to S&W who stated that everything was as it should be. Problem remained so eventually I took a good mag and a new mag apart and compared them. The new spring is stronger and longer, so I removed a coil. No change. Removed another coil. No change. Looked more closely at the follower and it became obvious. Shortened the follower legs, and 'bingo', everything good.

Check out the follower leg lengths.

TJ

 
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