m&p pistols, really that bad?

No issues with my .40.
A few thousand rounds down the pipe and not a single FTF.

The trigger definitely sucks at the factory 10 lbs.
Utilizing YouTube, time and a few beers, I massaged it down to a respectable 5 lbs and have loved it ever since.
 
I have four of them. Two FS, one in 9mm and one in 40cal. Two PROS , 9MM & 40cal.

The FS 9mm was bought the year they came into Canada. After 15K+ rds the gun suffered a broken striker which was not unexpected as the original strikers were prone to breakage and mine did not disappoint. The gun has all PRO internals not because I bought...A new striker cost me under $5.00

a 9MM PRO and filled it with APREX parts. After 10K rds gun has performed flawlessly. Neither gun has had a FTF or FTF except of course when the striker broke. The PRO got a 1 - 10 twist barrel to improve accuracy with 124gr and 147 gr bullets. Cost $85. approx.

The 40 cal FS is the product of mating a 40cal upper obtained from a police buy back out of the US with a 9MM frame bought off the EE. Total in it $350. ($250 for the frame and $100US for the upper). It is stock and is my gun safe protector. I have only put 1k through it with no issues. The 40 Cal PRO obtained in a trade has the FSS and trigger from APEX and a magwell. I have put 2K through it with no issues.

If you are on a budget replace the striker block with an Apex version and put a lighter trigger return spring in the gun and you will find the trigger to be decent.

I am not so sure what value hearing the reset is unless you like listening to the click while watching TV in your family room. I have more than a few models of various makes and have yet to ever hear the reset on any of them while shooting a match or just out practicing drills. I must admit the Glock reset click is noticeable when the TV is on mute but when watching my Eskimos or Oilers play I never notice the reset. The RAM for the M&P might be louder but the one I installed made no difference in the sound of the reset. Maybe I should turn the TV down.

To the guy who asked about the holster in the range kit. It is worth it. You will have all you need to play IDPA, a sport I can recommend. The 9MM M&P works great in that sport in two divisions. Sorry guys I could not resist.

Take Care

Bob

I was going to post a reply, but instead I'll just X2 all of this ^^^^..especially the bolded part !

15K+ through mine, 2 FTE due to bad brass. Burwell trigger job to smooth things out there.

The trigger can be horrible, but many Glock guys fine tune theirs as well so it's a moot point when comparing the two.
 
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There's no issue with the m&p series. It's a solid reliable duty pistol. I've used it for ipsc also and it functioned great.
I actually prefer it in many ways to a glock. Everyone has preferences, but when it comes to private and government agencies choosing a pistol price is always a factor even when it isn't always the best choice.
 
ill be the first to admit im a M&P fanboy.
have been since the first time i shot one.
and im sorry to say that i must be a mutant because i dont mind the trigger at all.

22, 9, 40, 45, 9pro

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9 PRO CORE - this is currently my 'everything' gun

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latest addition to the stable.
always wanted to try a compact pistol so i figured what the hell.

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wayupnorth I am sure you like your CORE. How do you find the optics performance. I am considering a V Comp version. Might be an inexpensive OPEN gun or just one heck of a fun gun plinker.

Take Care

Bob
 
I bought an M&P 9mm a few years ago and was pleasantly surprised. Since then, Ive fired thousands of rounds through it and the only problem has been from cheap ammo. Its probably the most compact 9mm you can buy in Canada and, if I could, Id carry it concealed. Im far from an expert but I carried a SIG P226 in the army for a number of years, including twice in Afghanistan, and can say its a solid firearm. However, I found it too big, heavy, and if you have smaller hands its difficult to manipulate. The M&P, however, fits like a glove. Mine only cost approximately $550, and its well worth it. A P226 it is not, but, you will get your moneys worth because - besides the trigger which can be upgraded - its compact, accurate, cycles through all sorts of ammo, and is easy to manipulate.
 
The trigger isn't as bad as everyone gripes about. It smooths out after about 500 and after 1000 it's a nice clean break.
I don't shoot it ss much as I should.
 
'Cause they're not Glock, and they don't continue selling the same gun when there are changes that can improve the gun.

If they make changes to improve the gun then it remains an M&P. The logic does not flow and you are right on one point....it is not a Glock and that is one of it's features. It has a more 1911 grip angle, better economics, is just as reliable as are most guns made today and has a stiffer frame. It has a light slide that makes it far less likely to jam due to what we refer often as "Limp Wristing". I have seen the latter occur in competition when shooters shoot from the corner of a wall from their weak side. Out of the box it has better sights than the Glock, an equally bad trigger for what some civilians want but most LEO departments could care less about.

If you want to reach into the semantic drawer the Gen 1 Glock is not a Gen 4 Glock. Some would say "unfortunately".

Both the Glock and the M&P are very good pistols with supporters. S&W is having financial problems at the present time so I would suggest bringing a new product into a crowded existing market to compete against their own well designed and popular pistol would be the last ting this company would be doing.

Take Care

Bob
 
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