M1 Carbine Folding Stock Legal?
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Hmmm, wonder if thats a typo on the website. Got the URL handy?
Never mind, found them... Its not the sort of thing you'd think they'd screw up, still does not help me, I want to shorten the barrel of a non restricted to about 16 inches.
Never mind, found them... Its not the sort of thing you'd think they'd screw up, still does not help me, I want to shorten the barrel of a non restricted to about 16 inches.
I have two Beretta Storms and a Ruger PC9 that disagree with you. It's done all the time.
You most definitely can do anything you want to your firearms as they are your personal property, however doing so will mean you're in possession of a prohibited device. The CFC "will not" re-classify your non-res into a restricted. Your rifle will automatically go to prohib status, and you'll have to toss it away. The only exception to this rule is for .22 where a non-restricted rifle has a barrel "made" for it that is under 18.5" (like a Krinker Plinker barrel). In this case, the barrel is made from birth to be a specific length, not modified from a pre-existing length to go from 18.5" to something smaller.
If you're in doubt, write down your project on paper. Call the CFC. Ask for a tech. Lay out your plan step by step. (the firearm in question, what you're going to do, etc.) They will give you the answer on the spot.
Bottomline, you CANNOT modify a barrel on a non-res rifle where the barrel goes under 18.5" without being in possession of a prohibited device. End of story. Do I personally care if you do that? No. Do what you like. It's your gun. Have at it. I am only pointing out the law, however stupid it is. Just don't ruin it for the rest of us by diving into a project before verifying the law and giving the CFC and the RCMP a reason to mandate new laws and restrictions.
No, muzzle extensions do not count as "barrel lengthening" by the CFC. They used to pre-1998, but they do not now. I paid $495.00 to Bits of Pieces in Vancouver to produce a barrel from scratch to change out the existing one for each rifle. The new "from birth" barrel is 19.1" long. I sent them the rifle and they did it, re-classification included. Total with taxes and shipping was a little over $570.00.
They will re-barrel Beretta Storms, PC4's/9's, and M1 Carbines to convert them to non-res. They'll re-barrel practically anything as they are gunsmiths.
I think this applies to any caliber, if you get a factory made barrel of less than 18.5" you can put it on a non-restricted rifle and have it reclassified. I think it has to be made by the same company that produced the rifle.
The OP is talking about "modifying" his existing non-res barrel to under the non-res length.
Any rifle that is not on the "no matter what you do to it it will never be a non-res firearm" can be re-barreled to non-res.
It does not have to be made by the same company that produced the firearm. The only stipulation is the barrel must be 18.5" or longer "at birth." For example, my barrels were made from generic barrel blanks lathed to the proper diameter then rifled and lathed to the outer specifications to match my rifle(s).
Rockola, United Postal Meter, Plainfield Machine, IBM, etc. haven't made a firearm since the 1950's. They either no longer exist nor have the tools to make barrels for M1 Carbines for example.
A rifle's barrel can only be lengthened by the replacement of a barrel of one length for another that is longer if your plan is to go from res to non-res for a rifle that qualifies. You cannot "modify" a barrel's length by adding muzzle extenders or flash suppressors.
There is a difference.
And I am sure a gunsmith will make you a shorter barrel for your firearm, however the CFC will not allow you to put it on your firearm and re-register it as a res firearm. A gunsmith will make anything you want provided it's a legal device and you've got money to throw away. Your 14.3" barrel for your M14 for example will be as useful as a walking stick because that's all you can use it for.
Cut the cloth any way you like, CFC will not re-classify your non-res to a res, and you modifying the length to under 18.5" will make the rifle a prohib. If you are looking for a 405 order on your license, saw away!
did you know in bc anyone can be a gunsmith... there is no training or requirment to becomeone you just put up a sign and say Im a gun smith basicly
used to be that way with locksmiths as well till they changed the rules..
