M1 Carbine

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Is the M1 Carbine listed as a Non Restricted, a Restricted firearm or a 12(?) firearm. It appears the list of firearms that used to be attached to the CFC's website is no longer acessible.
 
The M1 Carbine is generally restricted by definition, as the standard barrel is under 18.5 inches.

Iver Johnston made some with an 18.5 inch barrel which are non-restricted, and aftermarket barrels have been available as well.
 
There were also a number of M2 carbines (with M1 trigger paks) brought in to the country as M1s. Even though the rifle is identical to the M1, other than the stamped 2, these will fall under 12.3 class. You have to watch out if you are buying a previously registered rifle which has not gone through verification. Just because the certificate says non-restricted, or restricted, doesn't mean it will be after verification.

As I found out a year or two ago, an extension on the barrel, even if it is rifled, will not count towards the overall barrel length. RCMP insist the rifling be seamless. A full length sleeve will count though.
 
SIR in Winnipeg had a rack of M-2 marked carbines for sale in their Polo Park retail store many, many years ago. No selectors, but the tripping levers were still there. They were being sold as plain vanilla semi auto rifles at the time. I wonder what happened to them, as the rules changed.
 
On paper they were all listed as m1 carbines and probably still are (the recievers have NO as in NONE differences with the m1 only the "2" stamp there are many m2 marked carbines that HAVE been verified as m1 as the 2 stamp is VERY small and they had no FA parts installed and likely they did not bother to look for a 1 or 2 stamp

as for the trip levers big deal they served two purposes 1 to hold the trigger group to the reciever and to to reset the sear to prevent out of battery fireing durning FA fire the trip alone will do nothing
 
stencollector said:
Are you telling me that a legion of highly trained, unpaid volunteers, could regularly make mistakes?
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My limited understanding is that in the case of the M1/M2, stampings alone are not a certainty of it's history. M2's have been assembled from M1 stamped recievers, and unassembled M2 stamped recievers have been made into semi's.

Being a factory hodge podge, current assembled condition is likely all the CFC can really factor in determining status, unless the gun was imported into Canada as an M2.
 
The FRT lists all M2s as prohibited, but if you go to the remarks section, they muddy the waters something fierce, with their lines of M1s made up of M2 receivers, and M2s converted to M1s by governments and individuals, and M2s made out of M1s.
Funny how the world isn't black and white.
 
winchester and Inland (only factory GI m2 manufactures) had M1 recievers handstamped over with a 2 you can clearly see BOTH #'s so which one is it.....:) :) :)


the problem with the m1 carbine/m2 carbine is the recivers have ZERO differences (besides the # stamped on them)


you can take (its NOT allowed dont do it) the M2 Fa parts and install them in ANY usgi or plainsfield m1 carbine and make an m2

it was an amazeing kit that allowed FA fire without makeing a complet new rifle the reciever needed no machineing and it would have been a very cheap upgrade

many consider the m2 carbine to be the first U.S fielded assault rifle (mid powered cartridge with select fire ability)
 
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