M1 garand doctor near me ....need help

You can only investigate and eliminate one possible problem at a time.

Now you mention that you have a Boyds stock. These are highly variable in fit and poor stock fit will affect both accuracy and functionality. From what I've seen, Boyds wouldn't meet the quality control for a military contract.

You might find it useful to go to the Main Battle Rifles forum and read the thread titled, "Fort McMurray members:Who wants to shoot a new Garand today ", for a bunch of hints on checking and tweaking a Garand to shoot better. It's even quite entertaining in places. I don't have the time to repeat it all here.
 
sunray said:
Go here and download the free .pdf TM's and FM's. Note the need for the provided UN & PW.
You want TM-9-1275 and FM-23-5.
TM-9-1275 has the Trouble Shooting pages. As mentioned, short stroking is a gas system issue. Doesn't always mean new parts, but the end of your op rod may be too small. Has to be no more than .525". And the gas cylinder no more than .532". Measuring that requires an inside micrometer.
http://www.biggerhammer.net/manuals/
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^Absolutely anyone can quote an army troubleshooting manual and be done with it.

It takes intelligent thought and some personal experiences to ask the right question(s) sunrat.
 
^ ...sunrat ...... lol .......... t is next to the y ......

anyhoo..... just fired the garand after addressing the gas lock cylinder problem ..... also found a spot (thanks ZD) with the stock contacting the op rod handle ............ now cycling problems are the exception and not the norm.....whew !!! couple things and couple more questions ........for starters my elevation screw was undone so my adjustments werent made when adjusting to differ my groups .......Grrrr - rookie mistake! just made it hard to tell what worked and what didnt(accuracy-all shots were on edge of paper/box) ...... ok so i noticed this time when i loaded up the clips with the full 8 rounds that some of ther rims bound up with eachother ......... is that a real issue or it should be fine to just load em up ........... (im hoping thats the only cycling issue /reason ), also because im paranoid about getting garand thumb im wondering if im loading the full 8 round clip wrong ...... just now with my last full test clip i pushed it down further a bit till the latch went and moved the bolt ever so ahead ....... then i gave it the slap in...... is that the proper way ??? normally i have been riding the bolt a bit and easing the clip and bolt so that it just chambers or when i see the top round pushed forward ...then get my thumb out and let it slam shut ...... (clear as mud?) ...... probably doesnt matter hey ???? thanks so much for your time guys im super happy that it seems to be working good ......

i got to get a handle on the load development thing now .....today i had too many variations .......casings and powder were same but i messed with 2 bullets(same size though) and 3 primers in 8 and 5 shot configurations ( full clip vs feeding ) ........ i want to say the 5 shot single clip loading had less cycling issues then the full clip groupings (again -making me think about my crappy loading procedures/ rims catching on other rims)

run out on my bullets with my rcbs full sizer is bad as well so am gonna use my new redding fl sizer to minimize run out

there are some 3/5 and 4/5 indicators that i did shoot it 1.3 and 1.5 " groups ( which is great for me ..... im happy with that) ...so another quick question....most of my load development is done with a scope and 100/200 yard testing ...whats optimal for iron sights in your guys experience ????? i want this puppy shooting ...... just seems that 100 yards with a 4" circle is a bit unreliable to hit ...... should i move it to 50 ?????

and last thing should i do my load testing with single loading it or top feeding 3-5 rounds or load the whole clip .......... prob single it hey ?????

thanks again
 
When loading an 8 rd enbloc insert the 1st rd so that the case head is tight against the bottom of the clip, then continue to load the remaining 7 rds on alternate sides making sure that each rd is seated firmly with the case head tight against the clip. When done the points of all 8 rds should be even. This takes a bit of patience and practice.

You can make up 8 dummy rds to practice loading the clip, loading the rifle and checking timing, feeding, extraction and ejection. To do this FL resize the cases with fired primers in place, seat fmj bullets to 3.280 with a crimp. Lastly, drill 3 holes in the sides of the case and clean them up with a chamfering/deburring tool.

It's futile to try load development with a particular load unless everything (case make, case length, primer, propellant, charge weight, and bullet) are identical. When testing loads I load them singly by hand and shoot 3 or 5 rd groups. To do this inset a rd in the chamber. While holding the op rod handle with one hand, depress the follower with the other hand to release the bolt/op rod. Do not allow the bolt to slam closed from the fully open position. Rather, maintain control of the bolt by continuing to grasp the op rod handle and allow the bolt to move fwd under control until it passes the 50 percent closed position. At this point release the op rod and let the bolt close under spring pressure.If the bolt isn't fully closed bump the rear of the op rod handle to do this. Always make sure that primers are seated below flush with the case head.

To simplify zeroing at 100 yds cut a 6 in high x 8 in wide "bullseye" from black bristolboard and staple this on your buff or white colored backer paper. A piece of reversed wallpaper makes a good backer. Blacken both the rear face of the aperture and the front sight with a wooden kitchen match before shooting. For your sight picture place the top of the post on the bottom edge of the bull with the post centered on the bottom of the black. The eye will center the post in the aperture. A consistent sight picture will enable you to establish a proper group to establish zero and to evaluate the accuracy of the load. Check the post that I mentioned in the Battle Rifles Forum for other details.



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wow purple you are a fountain of knowledge ........... new batch of handloads are soon gonna be primed .........and the 8 dummy rounds are in the tumbler ... you are very specific with the dummies (me included ,lol) i dont have a crimper though for the 06 ...... but will do as u say cept that

gr8 advice on the sooting of the sights too ...will do, and the target/bullesye ......never ever would have thought of that ...... i use cereal box cardboard ....but will find your thread u mentioned

ummm im rigging up 13 of each ladder load test 45.5, 46 and 46.5 gr all the same everything this time---- i had a cluster f%^& last time cause i forgot i had a test batch from b4 this thread / decided to appeal to ya'll /when i was still trying to find a load before it got fixed ....... so that previous batch was a mix of everything ( duly labelled ) just to see what would cycle as well as a new batch that i also just shot that was more uniform

doing 13 cause im gonna single load the first 5 shots to see how that groups.....cool ...circle those 5 then load a full clip , 8 shots .....cool, change paper/cardboard , repeat and repeat . that should give me a good load grouping / analyze single -full clip thingamajigger
 
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