M1 Garand enthusiasts

[cyclone]

I’m thinking though , the M1 is a well made rifle , but in the extremely tough environment that the US troops fought in the Pacific , unit armorers, or Gun Plummers must have been kept busy , fixing the M1’s guirky hangups

John B. George's book Shots Fired In Anger has a great little bit about how the M-1 Gsrand was more reliable than the 1903 Springfield...

 

[Beretta Armorer]

I own one of the SA/IHC GAP Letter Garands.

SA/IHC 4.6 Million “Gap Letter” Receivers

The next variation of M1 rifle receiver supplied to International Harvester by Springfield was the so-called “Gap Letter” type in recognition of the noticeable space between the centers of the first two lines of the nomenclature logo.

The reason for this change in the format of the nomenclature is not known.

I have a similar sa
/ihc only the early production version 4.4 mil

 

[RifleDude]

The mechanicals are fascinating. There's a lot of complication, compared to other designs and it all works out almost every time.

Grizz

John Garand was a genius. The rifle was very reliable with normal preventive maintenance (grease on the working parts). The M1 is super easy to disassemble for cleaning as well.

 

[weimajack]

John Garand was a genius. The rifle was very reliable with normal preventive maintenance (grease on the working parts). The M1 is super easy to disassemble for cleaning as well.

YES, but Genius is missing to made a rifle with a detachable magazine.

The idea was already there with Browning BAR rifle; sorry, I can't understand.

 

[JP]

US specification did not want a large box sticking out of the rifle. Thinking by old guard Generals said it was bad for drilling and spoiled the lines of the rifle. John Garand himself wanted a box magazine.

 

[Brutus]

The M1 was a reliable weapon in a variety of environments in WW2. Probably the only adverse comment was on its weight. It also stood up well under harsh conditions in Korea. As always, user maintenance and a good supply of cleaning equipment is important.

I met once at Moose Jaw two ex heavy radar techs about to retire. They were stationed in West Germany and for a few years had to qualify with the M1 rifle issued at thier RCAF European radar sight. They were of the opinion the M1 rifle had a more comfortable recoil impulse than the later issued FNC1.
What's your opinion purple?

Curious

 

[x westie]

I found the M1 rifle a more pleasant rifle to shoot, much softer recoil , as compared to the FN C1, which had a nasty way of bruising your cheek bone

 

[RifleDude]

YES, but Genius is missing to made a rifle with a detachable magazine.

The idea was already there with Browning BAR rifle; sorry, I can't understand.

Here's a video from Bloke on the Range. He explains a lot of myths and truths about the M1, including the magazine vs enbloc clip issue. He makes a lot of sense IMHO.

 

[maple_leaf_eh]

any good sources for mixed manufacturer parts? i have only really seen Beretta, Breda, Springfield in larger numbers or in stores

my end goal is to own one of each manu, and try to build a mythical tanker in 18.5".

perhaps duplicating stocks in various woods

Set your time machine to 1989. When Lever Arms was selling whole M1s for $199, there was a second market stripping them into big Ziploc bags of parts. Many many of our bare receivers were once complete rifles. The Americans naturally sorted at anything that wasn't SA, WRA or IHC. You might find BMB, PB and BMP parts in the US, but I have no idea how you would repatriate them to Canada.

 

[maple_leaf_eh]

I met once at Moose Jaw two ex heavy radar techs about to retire. They were stationed in West Germany and for a few years had to qualify with the M1 rifle issued at thier RCAF European radar sight. They were of the opinion the M1 rifle had a more comfortable recoil impulse than the later issued FNC1.
What's your opinion purple?

Curious

Was one of them working for Bombardier fixing the Tutor simulators in GTS?

 

[purple]

I found the M1 rifle a more pleasant rifle to shoot, much softer recoil , as compared to the FN C1, which had a nasty way of bruising your cheek bone

Having shot them both a lot, I prefer the Garand for shooting because I believe it had a better stock design. I'd pick the FNC1 as the better combat rifle because of high cap mag and ease of field stripping/cleaning. Who notices recoil in the midst of a dire situation anyway?

 

[Brutus]

Was one of them working for Bombardier fixing the Tutor simulators in GTS?

Uhm. At the time was long before Bombardier was even there. They worked in the one small AVS building just next to base clothing supply.
Even could have been a base telecom building.

 

[maple_leaf_eh]

Uhm. At the time was long before Bombardier was even there. They worked in the one small AVS building just next to base clothing supply.
Even could have been a base telecom building.

Ack! There were so many long service techs on that base. They got posted in, liked the place, retired and got hired back. The simulator guys were so much more efficient when they didn't have to run two shifts, staff 1x WO, 3x Sgt, 10x MCpl and ### Cpls and Ptes, who were always on duty, on course, on leave, in $hit, on house hunting trips, on and on and on. Their boss told me with the contract, they were able to keep ahead of normal and scheduled maintenance, and even design modifications.

 

[Brutus]

Ack! There were so many long service techs on that base. They got posted in, liked the place, retired and got hired back. The simulator guys were so much more efficient when they didn't have to run two shifts, staff 1x WO, 3x Sgt, 10x MCpl and ### Cpls and Ptes, who were always on duty, on course, on leave, in $hit, on house hunting trips, on and on and on. Their boss told me with the contract, they were able to keep ahead of normal and scheduled maintenance, and even design modifications.

Yes sir I can definitely agree with what you say here.
Be well friend.

 

[can14]

I helped Allen strip a lot of the 10,000 m1 garand rifles
We stripped quite a few of the Italian guns because the US had an issue with Lend Lease to Denmark
So, the stripped US made guns had to have a lot of Italian parts in the bag and did. "Sprinkle a little Fairy Dust". The US receivers got the US Dealer a deuce in jail! He lied about them

 

[maple_leaf_eh]

I helped Allen strip a lot of the 10,000 m1 garand rifles
We stripped quite a few of the Italian guns because the US had an issue with Lend Lease to Denmark
So, the stripped US made guns had to have a lot of Italian parts in the bag and did. "Sprinkle a little Fairy Dust". The US receivers got the US Dealer a deuce in jail! He lied about them

Yup I remember those days. I think he was found to have misidentified receivers as truck parts. Although it is not uncommon to visually camouflage valuable shipments with fake stencils, the paperwork has to be spotless.

 

[NGD]

Hi all,
I have a Garand I am trying to figure out what the markings on the barrel mean. Its a ww2 Winchester receiver and chambered in 7.62. I'm attaching a pic, so if you know what this means, please let me know!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ukj9F4IkawRhtvOIdqNey36AaYfagqIe/view?usp=sharing
Thanks in advance!

 

[just having some fun]

Hi all,
I have a Garand I am trying to figure out what the markings on the barrel mean. Its a ww2 Winchester receiver and chambered in 7.62. I'm attaching a pic, so if you know what this means, please let me know!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ukj9F4IkawRhtvOIdqNey36AaYfagqIe/view?usp=sharing
Thanks in advance!

You Might have a navy rifle in 308
http://forums.thecmp.org/archive/index.php/t-100923.html

Sprinfield made the barrel ... proof tested .. Mangnetic particle tested 9-65 ... possible 30000 made


It might have a 1/12 twist ... should shoot 150 / 165g real good

 

[NGD]

Thanks. It is more accurate than me with Hirtenberg Surplus Ammo. Trying to figure our a value in case I sell it...