M1 Garand made in Oct. 1941

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I am looking for an honest opinion on an M1 Garand I have in my collection. I see many Garands on the EE forum with a wide range of prices. Wondering how much it is worth. Details are as follows:

Marked on Receiver:

U.S Rifle
Cal. 30 M1
Springfield
Armory
373159


SIDE OF RECEIVER:

B
5
N
D28291-13 SA


OPERATING ROD:

D35382 3 SA


TRIGGER HOUSIN

D28290-5-SA


HAMMER:

C46008-2 SA


BOLT:

D28287-2 SA
RE4D

BARREL:

S-A 10-41 & U


FOLLOWER ASSEMBLY:

8


STOCK:

Is stamped with the national match symbol (3 stars and eagle). Unfortunately the stock was sanded and varnished by the previous owner. The stamping is hard to see but still there.


From what I can tell, this firearm (at least the receiver and barrel) were made in Oct 1941 ie. pre Pearl Harbour. It is in very good shape. Any further info and approx. value would be greatly appreciated.
 
lbatlas said:
I am looking for an honest opinion on an M1 Garand I have in my collection. I see many Garands on the EE forum with a wide range of prices. Wondering how much it is worth. Details are as follows:

Marked on Receiver:

U.S Rifle
Cal. 30 M1
Springfield
Armory
373159


SIDE OF RECEIVER:

B
5
N
D28291-13 SA


OPERATING ROD:

D35382 3 SA


TRIGGER HOUSIN

D28290-5-SA


HAMMER:

C46008-2 SA


BOLT:

D28287-2 SA
RE4D

BARREL:

S-A 10-41 & U


FOLLOWER ASSEMBLY:

8


STOCK:

Is stamped with the national match symbol (3 stars and eagle). Unfortunately the stock was sanded and varnished by the previous owner. The stamping is hard to see but still there.


From what I can tell, this firearm (at least the receiver and barrel) were made in Oct 1941 ie. pre Pearl Harbour. It is in very good shape. Any further info and approx. value would be greatly appreciated.
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It appears that you have a rifle with pretty much all original parts, with the exception of the stock, which is a 1950s vintage replacent. A few more questions:

-what are the markings on the safety? One marked C46015-6SA would be an original for the rifle.

-any Brit or other stampings on the barrel?

-any markings on the rear sight? Does it have a locking bar on the windage knob?

Condition is everything, so pics would be helpful. An original parts rifle with original finish is more valuable to a collector. The Cdn market is a bit different than the US one as folks here seem to think more of Garands as shooters, rather than safe queens.
 
I have 328219 which is just before yours. Mine has LL markings and is all original including round firing pin. You should check for that if you intend to shoot it. Too bad about the stock but that happens. Pre WW2 guns are truly rare.
 
lbatlas said:
ok, I give up how do you post a pic? Had a quick look in the FAQ with out much luck.
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This site doesn't host posting of pics. You need to host your pic on a site such as PhotoBucket or ImageShack then link to it here with an IMG tag.

I'd avoid ImageShack for now as it was recently attacked by a virus. The virus they got was adding to pics stored on their servers a hidden feature called XSS (cross site scripting) flaw, which executes first some hidden code on the user's computer and then shows the image. Since this technique can be pretty harmful and rapidly propagate itself across the Internet infecting even more computers, one should normally avoid images hot-linked from other sites unless virus scanned first.

If you want, email it to me at badger@milsurps.com and I'll host it for you.

Regards,
Doug
 
BadgerDog said:
This site doesn't host posting of pics. You need to host your pic on a site such as PhotoBucket or ImageShack then link to it here with an IMG tag.

I'd avoid ImageShack for now as it was recently attacked by a virus. The virus they got was adding to pics stored on their servers a hidden feature called XSS (cross site scripting) flaw, which executes first some hidden code on the user's computer and then shows the image. Since this technique can be pretty harmful and rapidly propagate itself across the Internet infecting even more computers, one should normally avoid images hot-linked from other sites unless virus scanned first.

If you want, email it to me at badger@milsurps.com and I'll host it for you.

Regards,
Doug
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I will send them to you.

Thanks
Dan
 
purple said:
It appears that you have a rifle with pretty much all original parts, with the exception of the stock, which is a 1950s vintage replacent. A few more questions:

-what are the markings on the safety? One marked C46015-6SA would be an original for the rifle.

-any Brit or other stampings on the barrel?

-any markings on the rear sight? Does it have a locking bar on the windage knob?

Condition is everything, so pics would be helpful. An original parts rifle with original finish is more valuable to a collector. The Cdn market is a bit different than the US one as folks here seem to think more of Garands as shooters, rather than safe queens.
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Purple,

-I do not recall any other markings, however, if this would have required disassembling the trigger group, I did not do this. I did not feel comfortable stripping the trigger group at the time.

-No, I do not recall seeing any British proof marks/stampings, I will double check.

-The only marking I see on the rear sight is N H C on the right windage knob. There is no locking bar.

I am trying to get pics up but I have crap internet (dial up speed). Doug has agreed to help me thankfully. Hope this helps.

Thanks for all replies
 
The trigger housing doesn't need to be stripped to get a read on the safety markings. To remove the trigger housing #### the rifle so that the hammer is retracted, depress follower and let bolt close (keep hand clear of the boltface and ease op rod forward), pull down on the rear of the trigger guard, swing the guard down until it stops, then lift out the trigger housing. To replace; insert trigger housing, swing the trigger guard up until it locks up, pull the trigger to release the hammer.

Your rear sight windage and elevation knobs are 1950s vintage replacements, not original to the rifle.
 
lbatlas said:
I will send them to you.

Thanks
Dan
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Regards,
Doug

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The rifle has considerable appeal to a serious collector as it is an original receiver/barrel combination with many original "time/manufacturer correct" parts. Tough to say from the pics, but the metal finish seems original and pretty much intact. There is no description of the bore condition concerning pitting or extent of wear.

From a restorer's point of view the big issues are locating an original stock in good condition with the correct arsenal cartouche and a set of original "flush nut" elevation/windage knobs. These things can be found, but at considerable cost. They would certainly boost the collector value a great deal. Also, there is the issue of importing parts from the US in excess of the US-imposed $100 export limit (I had a nice stock valued @ $100.03 scarfed up by the "homeland security" apparatus a year ago). Many US vendors simply refuse to export parts in view of this, so chances of locating these original parts for a restoration are bleak.

In it's present state, with the 1950s replacement stock and rear sight components, the rifle still appears to be a good one. Ultimately it is worth what someone wants to pay for it. From a shooters perspective there are other choices for sound, fine quality Garands, which seem to be running in the $1200-$1400 asking range on the EE. The serious collector's market is in the US and it would fetch a much better price there, but unfortunately the rifle is not importable under current US law.
 
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