M1 Garand Quiz #4

[purple]

Norway? Going out on a limb and saying Canada? John Garand was Canadian after all. Phillipines? purple you're driving me crazy!

EDIT: Just read from my book: "That Beretta, F.N., and Sauer parts are found on M1s-even DCM guns, which saw NATO service-should amaze no one. Rifles were being rebuilt in Europe just as they were in the United States."

So, Belgium and/or Germany?

Nope. Remember that the Belgiques were already making their own "Garand" in the form of the FN49. The West Germans used the Garand and did make some parts for it, but never made the rifle itself. I have a few bolts made by Sauer, coded SuS and the drawing number. Norway used the rifle from US stocks, but didn't make it. The Garand was never made in Canada, altho some were procured in 1945 to equip the Cdn Army Pacific Force, which was never deployed. Some were also used by RCAF airfield defence personnel in Europe in the early 1950s. Some were also used unofficially by Cdn troops in Korea.

 

[Brutus]

WOW........took some detective work but here's my next answer: Argentina manufactured them I believe in 7.65x54mm in the late 1940s or early 1950s.

 

[Light Infantry]

I believe Argentina only converted some Garands for mag use.

After r-reading Purple's original, i am going to have to go back with Japan, but not the WW2 prototype, but post-war Howa manufacture

edit to add for clarity: for the Japanese Self Defense Forces

 

[Tbolt]

Didn't the Japanese have a prototype copy of the Garand as well?

 

[purple]

WOW........took some detective work but here's my next answer: Argentina manufactured them I believe in 7.65x54mm in the 1950s.

OK, you nailed it. The quiz is over.

The Argentinians made a prototype Garand in 7.65x53mm. In the 1953-55 timeframe they built prototypes of the Garand, the M1941 Johnson(also in 7.65x53), and the German StG44 with the aim of selecting a new service rifle to replace a miscellany of older bolt rifles. All of these were stillborn as the Argentinians decided on the newer FN FAL and began producing it under license in 1960.

For more info and pics of both the Argentinian and South Korean Garands see The Garand Collectors Journal, Vol23, issue 3, summer 2009.

Stay tuned for more quizzes.

 

[purple]

I believe Argentina only converted some Garands for mag use.

After r-reading Purple's original, i am going to have to go back with Japan, but not the WW2 prototype, but post-war Howa manufacture

edit to add for clarity: for the Japanese Self Defense Forces

Other than a Wikepedia citation (reliability unknown) and some other internet commentary, I haven't been able to verify that the Japanese did produce a copy of the M1 Garand for military use in the post-WW2 timeframe. My understanding is that they were furnished with supplies of US built Garands along with other US weapons and equipment required to get their Self-Defense Forces up and running. They have long since used a variety of home- grown equipment.

It would be good to see authenticated data and photos of these rifles to confirm their existance.

 

[deagle2008]

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  Argentina: Received about 30,000 M1s from the U.S. government before 1964. Some were converted to accept BM59 magazines in the 1960s.[51]
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  Brazil: Received large numbers of M1s from the U.S. government in the early 1950s. Some were converted to the 7.62x51mm NATO cartridge and to accept FN FAL magazines.[51]
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  Cambodia: Received M1 rifles from the U.S. government.[52]
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  Cuba[53]
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  Denmark - Received 69,810 M1 rifles (designated "Gevær m/50") from the U.S. government prior to 1964. Some were converted to the 7.62x51mm NATO cartridge.[54] Also purchased 20,000 M1s from Italy.[55] The rifle has now been phased out of service.
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  Ethiopia: Received 20,700 M1 rifles from the U.S. government in the 1960s.[54]
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  France - Used by the Foreign Legion and Free French Forces.[56][57] France also received 232,500 M1 rifles from the U.S. government in 1950-1964.[54]
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  West Germany: Received 46,750 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1965.[54]
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  Greece: Received 186,090 M1 and 1880 M1C/M1D rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1975.[54] Still in use for ceremonial duties by the Presidential Guard.
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  Indonesia: Received between 55,000 and 78,000 M1s and a minor number of M1Cs from the U.S. government prior to 1971; some rifles also supplied from Italy.[51]
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  Iran: Received 165,490 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1964.[54]
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  Israel: Received up to 60,000 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1975.[54]
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  Italy: Used by the army from 1945. Beretta license-built 100,000 M1s from 1950 until the adoption of the BM59 in 1959.[55] Also received 232,000 M1s from the U.S. government between 1950 and 1970.[51]
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  Japan: Issued to the National Police Reserve. Still used by the JSDF as a ceremonial weapon.[58]
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  Jordan: Received an estimated 25,000-30,000 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1974.[54]
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  Laos: Received 36,270 M1 rifles from the U.S. government in 1950-1975.[54]
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  Norway: Received 72,800 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1964.[54]
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  Pakistan: Received possibly 150,000 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1975.[54]
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  Panama[59]
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  Paraguay: Received 30,750 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1975.[54]
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  Philippines: Received 34,300 M1 and 2630 M1D rifles from the U.S. government in 1950-1975.[54]
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  Saudi Arabia: Received 34,530 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1975.[54]
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  South Korea: Received 296,450 of M1 rifles from the U.S. government in 1964-1974.[54]
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  South Vietnam: Received 220,300 M1 and 520 M1C/M1D rifles from the U.S. government in 1950-1975.[54]
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  Thailand: Received about 40,000 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1965.[54]
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  Turkey: Received 312,430 M1 rifles from the U.S. government in 1953-1970.[54]
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  United States: Standard issue rifle of the U.S. Army, Navy, Marine Corps, and Air Force from 1936 to 1963.[citation needed] Still in use for official military ceremonies and ROTC units.
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  Uruguay[59]
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  Venezuela: Received 55,670 M1 rifles from the U.S. government prior to 1975.[54]

 

[green]

IIRC Brazil and Argentina.

 

[revilo]

this post reminds me of a guy that used to post all kinds of cool M1 Garand tidbits, supposedly for a book he was working on. I think Clancy was his name(?). IIRC, he got mad that people weren't responding to his posts and left the board. Too bad, he had great stuff. Anyone else remember him?

 

[.30/06 FTW]

this post reminds me of a guy that used to post all kinds of cool M1 Garand tidbits, supposedly for a book he was working on. I think Clancy was his name(?). IIRC, he got mad that people weren't responding to his posts and left the board. Too bad, he had great stuff. Anyone else remember him?

Was he the guy that had the sigpic saying "The only person standing is the man in the wheelchair"?

 

[300Spartans]

300spartans and Brutus are the winners.

Our prizes were excellent condition M1Ds with Unertl scopes.

Thanks Purple.