Totally a bummer. I'm new to the AK mag game so didn't have any PMAGS but will be grabbing one the next trip!Damn, that's ####ty about the mags. I'm sorry to hear about that. Keep us posted on the accuracy report. Did you try PMAGs yet?
Totally a bummer. I'm new to the AK mag game so didn't have any PMAGS but will be grabbing one the next trip!Damn, that's ####ty about the mags. I'm sorry to hear about that. Keep us posted on the accuracy report. Did you try PMAGs yet?
Hilux is on the Bucket List.In terms of reliability, the M10X is like a Ford truck with the Triton Engine.... where as the Type 81 is an old Toyota Hilux.
Skip mpags, those are pinned too tight. Get the Bulgarian poly mags instead. Those work amazing and fit 5.5rnds in themTotally a bummer. I'm new to the AK mag game so didn't have any PMAGS but will be grabbing one the next trip!
Skip mpags, those are pinned too tight. Get the Bulgarian poly mags instead. Those work amazing and fit 5.5rnds in them
True, but for the time to import ans get them etc.. easy enough to grab the bulgy magsfor same if not less and have steel reinforced lips/tabsIt all depends who pins the mags. Obviously the Canadian distributor does not have a clue. Go with IRG, they probably pinned more mags than anybody and the guys/girls in Arizona are doing and excellent job.
Are you able to check it out in store? The 3rd Gen Plus handguard is a bit nicer, but not $700-$800 nicer in my view and with the upgraded internals felt as smooth an action as the Gen 3 Plus.Priced out an M10x Gen 3 Plus with the OEM 16.5" long, chrome lined, HFB at $2500, which is CZ Bren territory.
I'm back on the fence over going with a Gen. 2 with upgraded internals or just sticking with my T81.
I strongly caution you to try the actions on both rifles before you buy, if at all possible. You will feel for yourself the difference between the new Milled Receiver and the older Gen 2 cast receiver. The latter is quite gritty and rough as compared to the Gen 3's fully-machined Receiver, which is extremely smooth. Smoother even than my Galils, Valmet, AKMS, etc. The only AK/SIG550 action that I have which is smoother is my SwissArms PE90, and that is saying something!Priced out an M10x Gen 3 Plus with the OEM 16.5" long, chrome lined, HFB at $2500, which is CZ Bren territory.
I'm back on the fence over going with a Gen. 2 with upgraded internals or just sticking with my T81.
All sold out.Lots of Bulgarian polymer mags up at Hamlyn Armament Company
The type 81 converted mags are but the AK ones are still upAll sold out.
I strongly caution you to try the actions on both rifles before you buy, if at all possible. You will feel for yourself the difference between the new Milled Receiver and the older Gen 2 cast receiver. The latter is quite gritty and rough as compared to the Gen 3's fully-machined Receiver, which is extremely smooth. Smoother even than my Galils, Valmet, AKMS, etc. The only AK/SIG550 action that I have which is smoother is my SwissArms PE90, and that is saying something!
Yeah, I had them on the counter side by each and I was fingering them pretty good going back and forth. Action and trigger were a wash between the two.I don't know if they upgraded the receiver, lubed it up good, polished some surfaces (or maybe I'm a fool) but the Gen 2s CSC is selling with the Gen 3 guts is very smooth. Unfortunately I cannot compare it to a Galil, Valmet, or AKMS...
I strongly caution you to try the actions on both rifles before you buy, if at all possible. You will feel for yourself the difference between the new Milled Receiver and the older Gen 2 cast receiver. The latter is quite gritty and rough as compared to the Gen 3's fully-machined Receiver, which is extremely smooth.
11" CZ Bren in 7.62x39mm at $2900 ($400 more) v. the Gen 3 Plus with Chromed 16.5" CHFB at $2500
https://store.theshootingcentre.com/cz-bren-2-ms-rifle-7-62x39mm-11-barrel/
G4C has an 11" barrelled CZ Bren for $2500 - that is the same price as I was quoted for an M+M Gen 3 Plus with 16.5" OEM barrel.
https://g4cgunstore.com/product/cz-bren-2-ms-7-62x39mm-11-black/
Yes way more expensive and getting harder to come by.I'd hand load for the CZ if I got one, but yeah that is another thing to factor.
Brass cased 7.62x39 is generally more expensive than .223/5.56, either as factory ammo or hand loads