m14 barrel removal

Ripstop said:
Huh? What? Who said anything about clamping a receiver in a vice?


Even with using insets around the barrel, some of those stubborn barrels will still want to turn in the inserts. I don't change barrels often enough to buy a proper barrel vise. Using the insets in an ordinary machinist vise, you can still wedge a small metal block between one of the barrel grooves and the vise jaw. NOTHING wrong with that. It stops the barrel from wanting to start turning in the inserts.

The first time I tried this was up at one of Hungry's clinics and we were turning the barrel in the inserts even after using the pipe on the vise handle to tighten it down. We were trying to get the barrel off.

Obviously you have gotten the completely wrong idea about my post.
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No, I understand exactly what you are describing. Improvised tools can be a poor substitute for proper ones. Sometimes the job gets done, sometimes there is damage. A conventional vise does not do a very good job of holding a barrel even with blocks. Using a pipe on the vise handle is poor practice, and frequently results in damage to the vice, and doesn't necessarily get the job done. All very well if you are working on your own guns. Really bad idea if you are working on someone else's.
 
i have a proper barrel vice with bushings specifically for standard and bushings for medium/heavy barrel contours. I think an improvement to the barrel vice would be a tab that locks into the barrel's handguard slots to stop rotation of the barrel/bushings in the vice. However , the set i'm using has been workin for several dozen rifles so far and still counting ;)
 
tiriaq said:
No, I understand exactly what you are describing.
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Then why would you mention anything about putting a receiver in the vise?

tiriaq said:
Improvised tools can be a poor substitute for proper ones. Sometimes the job gets done, sometimes there is damage. A conventional vise does not do a very good job of holding a barrel even with blocks. Using a pipe on the vise handle is poor practice, and frequently results in damage to the vice, and doesn't necessarily get the job done. All very well if you are working on your own guns. Really bad idea if you are working on someone else's.
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Then I guess people like Hungry shouldn't be helping others. Strange though, those people including me are very grateful. I believe his record is top notch.
 
Ripstop... I understand where you are coming from defending my welfare way of doing my own barrels. That's cool. We must also understand where tiriaq is coming from. I have worked with and spent many hours with tiriaq and I know where he (context here) is preaching from.

Tiriaq is right about having the right tools, etc. I am not a gunsmith and I'm not licensed to work on anybody else's boomsticks for money/profit and I don't for THAT reason. The folks who do their rebarreling jobs in my basement DO their own work using my welfare tools and their brawn. All of this of course is under my finger (pointing) of authority.

You are BOTH correct !! :evil:

Let's move on..............
 
I guess the difference is that when you are supervised or knowledgeable enough to know when things are starting to go wrong, you STOP. I see that tiriaq is concerned that people will think a pipe wrench and a hammer is all that you need.

I've made my own tools that are far superior to what you can purchase commercially. I know when to stop if things are starting to go bad. Sometimes I forget that not all people are the same.

I apologize for my outburst. From my viewpoint, I can make equipment that suits the purpose. I have made a barrel vise - I just need to machine the inserts now.
 
What outburst? You are just fine.

Hey! This is why the Main Battle Rifle forum is the most helpful forum in the CGNutz community !! It's about helping one another. ;)

Peace be to journey,

Barney
 
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