M14 Disassembly - Impossible???

sixty9santa

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So, just how hard is it to remove the trigger assembly?
I'm not a weak man, but I sure as hell can't remove it.
I tried using a small piece of brass rod layed flat across the trigger guard to push it forward and then up, but no dice.
What can I do?
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-sixty9santa
 
1. Remove mag & pull back on op handle to #### the gun.
2. After visually inspecting the chamber & ensuring that it is empty, run the bolt forward.
3. Flip the rifle upside down. Push the safety all the way back inside the trigger guard. Mine was way stiff and needed a good nudge.
4.Pull the rear end of the trigger guard to-wards the buttstock of the rifle until you feel it disengage then pivot the trigger guard upward until it is almost vertical.
4. Pull on the guard and the trigger group should come free.
 
Should the safety be engaged or disengaged?
It's kinda hrad to get a proper grip with the safety engaged!
So as you guessed, I still can't remove the trigger assembly.
 
With the M-14 it is super easy! Just take a flat-handled or robertson screwdriver (or any screwdriver that can fit into the hole in the trigger guard) and use it to pry the trigger guard open!
 
sixty9santa said:
Should the safety be engaged or disengaged?
It's kinda hard to get a proper grip with the safety engaged!
So as you guessed, I still can't remove the trigger assembly.

Pull the REAR of the trigger guard back toward the butt. If you can't get a finger in between the trigger & trigger guard then use a screwdiver as previously posted. The guard will move back and then hinge upwards. The safety should be on according to the disassembly instructions I have.
 
I had the same trouble last night and I was trying with a screw driver. Guess I'll giver again tonight. Not that I gave up mind you, just that dinner was ready :D
 
sixty9santa said:
Got 'em!
The wood was a very tight fit.

Tight is good, that's what you want in a new M14 :D Over time, it'll loosen up a bit. It's best to store the rifle with the trigger guard open on a wood-stocked M14/M305 so that the wood doesn't compress over time and the triggerguard & receiver/barrel assy don't get too loose in the stock.
 
sixty9santa said:
Got 'em!
The wood was a very tight fit.

Alright! It is amazing how quickly you can take the M305/M14s down to its 3 component groups once you have done it a few times. Just watch the tension on the op rod spring if you are going to go any further.:)
 
I will definately get a new op rod spring guide for both and a pair of buffers to boot.
I cleaned both rifles with Birchwood Casey Gun Scrubber. Took a full can for both!
I greased the entire receiver and bolt as well as the op rod.
The gas system was left dry but some Remington dry lube might be worth a try? Hungry, Skullboy?
All I need now is a pair of USGI stocks (anyone willing to sell me one please do PM me), and couple of scope mounts as well as a pair of scopes.
The mounts will be ARMS 18 without a doubt.
I don't quite know what rings but I'll get a Bushnell 3200 10x40 Tactical and Barska SWAT 6-24x60 IR.
 
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I feed a rag between the back of the trigger and trigger guard and pull on it, that way I can give it a good yank.

For rings go with the ARMS #22, they're not cheap but being able to remove the scope and go to irons quick is quite cool.
 
sixty9santa:

I'm glad that you did not buy ONE of the M14's. But you bought TWO !

You will not regret that purchase. Most people realize that buying ONE was a mistake, they discover that they shouda bought TWO of them !

I'm not working for Marstar or Lever or Milarm, I'm just a cheap bastard trying to hook all of you into the M14 addiction. It's more powerful than Crystal Meth. LOL
 
Just a word of WARNING ... DO NOT engage your safety during trigger group removal or installation. This can cause a loss of material on the tip end of the safety's engagement surface. Generally a chip in the metal that is barely noticed. This can cause you some serious problems such as a jammed/seized trigger group and can lead to you having to rebuild or replace your entire trigger assembly. This is for ALL m14, m14s and m305 rifles, regardless of manufacture. Also, you will find it MUCH easier to unlock the trigger bar with the rifle cocked as by unlocking and swinging the trigger bar cocks the hammer anyways. Care should be taken when removing and installing the trigger group so as to not cause excessive wear on the small key slot in the receiver or the rail on the trigger assembly that mates with the key slot. Take care that your trigger assembly slides straight in and straight out every time you disassemble or reassemble. Forward or rearward pressure on the trigger group during this process can cause material loss on both the rail and the key slot. Again, this pertains to ALL models and manufactures of the m14 type rifle.
 
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The hole in the front of the trigger guard was meant to accept a spent casing which could act as a lever to bring it down...
 
I had to file some of the wood on the stock away in order to get the trigger group out. It seems the wood had swelled slightly.

For opening the trigger guard, I looped some cord into the hole for some more leverage.
 
Hungry said:
sixty9santa:

I'm glad that you did not buy ONE of the M14's. But you bought TWO !

You will not regret that purchase. Most people realize that buying ONE was a mistake, they discover that they shouda bought TWO of them !

I'm not working for Marstar or Lever or Milarm, I'm just a cheap bastard trying to hook all of you into the M14 addiction. It's more powerful than Crystal Meth. LOL

I'm guessing I'll be really glad (and broke) I have 3 coming!!
 
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