m14 EBR
- Thread starter trekstor
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To military personel yes
Full aluminum chassis stocks are meant for use on combat weapons
I found no benefit other than it looks damn cool.
They do offer a solid platform for bench shooters however.
In my opinion for us civvies... And combat role as well, a bombproof composite stock in an EBR like version has faster handling and lower dent to the pocket book.
I'd hold off on a Sage or otherwise. I'm launching a new stock in May that will go over big
Full aluminum chassis stocks are meant for use on combat weapons
I found no benefit other than it looks damn cool.
They do offer a solid platform for bench shooters however.
In my opinion for us civvies... And combat role as well, a bombproof composite stock in an EBR like version has faster handling and lower dent to the pocket book.
I'd hold off on a Sage or otherwise. I'm launching a new stock in May that will go over big
The one thing the sage does do is bed the front of the rifle to the stock by way of a special oprod guide. This supposedly increases accuracy, but this can also be done to a certain extent by hammering the crap out of the front band on a regular setup so the band sits tighter to the stock. In my experience the sage also controls a certain amount of muzzle flip due to the weight in the front. And they look really cool!
Just my 2 cents...
Just my 2 cents...
Sage is worth the moolah if u want almost bolt like accuracy from a semi -
HOWEVER - the new Kanadian ones (composite and metal) we have been teased with seem to incorporate the best features of ALL the accurate M14 stock designs and may make the SAGE design an antique -
All my saliva has dried up slobbering so long waiting -
I would be in nirvana just to see the designs !
Got the T-shirt
DID THAT - dont work -
Ferrule lip pressure is different for each rifle - some need more - some less -
Depends on the receiver bedding pressure which varies from rifle to rifle.
The JAE allows you to adjust to your gun and it is an excellent system -
It works very well for an unlocked op-rod guide. Would work better in conjunction with the following -
The most un variable and consistant system is the Sage , AKM , op rod guide locked to stock system.
I think thats why the AmeriKan troopies use it in the sandbox -
It works VERY well for repeatable consistant accuracy.
DID THAT - dont work -
Ferrule lip pressure is different for each rifle - some need more - some less -
Depends on the receiver bedding pressure which varies from rifle to rifle.
The JAE allows you to adjust to your gun and it is an excellent system -
It works very well for an unlocked op-rod guide. Would work better in conjunction with the following -
The most un variable and consistant system is the Sage , AKM , op rod guide locked to stock system.
I think thats why the AmeriKan troopies use it in the sandbox -
It works VERY well for repeatable consistant accuracy.
I'm not makin any claims of my stock being better than a sage. Definately won't make the sage antique.
But it will offer a new choice for civvies and military uses alike.
I am making a stock to the drawing specs of a usgi fiberglass inside but with the latest greatest composite materials, chosen for weight, sheer strength, flex resisting, heat resisting ect.
I am competing in Vltor's market and so far, my full USR (understock rail) version is lighter than a vltor. Vltor is a usgi fiberglass with a screw n glue adapter. Mine is an adapter imbedded while the stock is being made.
Mine will accept any AR15 buffer tube, vltor is proprietory.
If I can draw would be Sage customers to my stock, life is good
I do really really like the sage. It has been an inspiration in my own endeavors
But it will offer a new choice for civvies and military uses alike.
I am making a stock to the drawing specs of a usgi fiberglass inside but with the latest greatest composite materials, chosen for weight, sheer strength, flex resisting, heat resisting ect.
I am competing in Vltor's market and so far, my full USR (understock rail) version is lighter than a vltor. Vltor is a usgi fiberglass with a screw n glue adapter. Mine is an adapter imbedded while the stock is being made.
Mine will accept any AR15 buffer tube, vltor is proprietory.
If I can draw would be Sage customers to my stock, life is good
I do really really like the sage. It has been an inspiration in my own endeavors
- Location
- Edmonton, AB
Arright arright... I'll wait to see yours before I go buy a Vltor, Thomas
The big question though: Will your EBR stock have similar height adjustment as the Vltor? That's a big selling feature to me right there. Crank it up for the big scope, drop it a bit for a small scope or reflex, and then drop it lower still for the irons to get ideal cheek weld every time without having to dink around with a riser pad that looks out of place at the best of times
The big question though: Will your EBR stock have similar height adjustment as the Vltor? That's a big selling feature to me right there. Crank it up for the big scope, drop it a bit for a small scope or reflex, and then drop it lower still for the irons to get ideal cheek weld every time without having to dink around with a riser pad that looks out of place at the best of times
There will be quite a few Canadian M14 specific options in the near future. Thomas, Laz and some other dealers like Rauch, Tartan have all stepped in with parts and stock designs/add-ons.
I can't wait to see Thomas's composite creation along with Laz's chassis.
I can't wait to see Thomas's composite creation along with Laz's chassis.
The SAGE EBR chassis stock system is all about enhanced accuracy and mounting accessories.
The chassis is built like a tank, it offers tension bedding that does not wear out, the barrel is semi free floated beyond
the op rod guide and there is a set screw on the front of the stock that allows for downward pressure on the barrel if needed.
My experience with SAGE stocks started in 2004 and I feel they are well worth the money
- Location
- Edmonton, AB
Can we even get SAGE up here yet?
maple_leaf_eh
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
The M14 family chassis-stocks are really appropriate for combat infantry and special forces. Unless you are likely to be HALO parachuting into a hot AOI and tasked to whack a particular bad guy with two to the chest and one between the lookers, you probably don't need any of the features.
I found the one I handled to be too heavy by 8 lbs, too sharp on all surfaces and too expensive for my budget.
To paraphraise it differently, I want to have a significant relationship with my family not with my gunsmith slash M14 tuner.
I found the one I handled to be too heavy by 8 lbs, too sharp on all surfaces and too expensive for my budget.
To paraphraise it differently, I want to have a significant relationship with my family not with my gunsmith slash M14 tuner.
The first stock I'm releasing is a AR furniture compatable composite. NOT an EBR in that I do not incorporate a barrel/oprod guide retaining block.
My adaptor is built into the stock from step one of manufacture and is NOT height adjustable. It does not need to be, trust me.
The VLTOR is a surplus usgi stock, cut off behind the receiver and trigger bedding pads and an aluminum mount is screwed and glued to the usgi stock.
The vltor's adjustable hieght proprietory buffer tube set up is a weak point in the design and not worth having in my opinion.
My stock will take any AR buttstock off the battlefield and any standard Ar A2 grip... I like the hogue.
My stock , with a full rail and basic 6 pos stock and grip, weighs less than a Vltor with the same rail, almost a 1/4 pound less.
I also have an aluminum chassis type stock with the blue printing a prototype process a done deal. Don't expect that ANY time soon as it will go thru patent process before anyone but me and my machinist get any further details
I've owned all the fancy "RACE" stocks for the m14 and lighter is better believe me.
Nothing wrong with a Sage, I quite like them.
My adaptor is built into the stock from step one of manufacture and is NOT height adjustable. It does not need to be, trust me.
The VLTOR is a surplus usgi stock, cut off behind the receiver and trigger bedding pads and an aluminum mount is screwed and glued to the usgi stock.
The vltor's adjustable hieght proprietory buffer tube set up is a weak point in the design and not worth having in my opinion.
My stock will take any AR buttstock off the battlefield and any standard Ar A2 grip... I like the hogue.
My stock , with a full rail and basic 6 pos stock and grip, weighs less than a Vltor with the same rail, almost a 1/4 pound less.
I also have an aluminum chassis type stock with the blue printing a prototype process a done deal. Don't expect that ANY time soon as it will go thru patent process before anyone but me and my machinist get any further details
I've owned all the fancy "RACE" stocks for the m14 and lighter is better believe me.
Nothing wrong with a Sage, I quite like them.
