M14 Lubrication, question about bolt lug lubrication...

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Hey Guys;

I read Skullboy's post in FAQ's and I defer to the experts when it comes to maintenance of the M14 type rifle... But, does it give anyone else the "ibe-jeebies" to lube the bolt lugs?

I know that in a properly maintained rifle, the interaction between the clean chamber & the fired cartridge is that the brass "grabs" the chamber and there is very little rearward force on the bolt lugs.

Here is the recommended "parts to lube" list;
Lubricating the M14 Type Rifles.

The only two thing you want to lube with gun oil are the trigger assembly pivot points, and the firing pin.All other lubing should be done with a good quality grease.

You want to grease the following areas:
-Bolt roller
-bolt lugs
-The bolt tracks inside the reciever
-the underside of the bolt
-the nose of the hammer
-Operating Rod track
-Inside the Op Rod "hump"(where the bolt roller fits.HINT a small syringe filled with grease works great for lubing this area).
-Recoil spring guide rod
-Where the Op Rod slides through the op rod guide

Cheers
Jay
 
I've used grease to lube the bolt lugs from day one on the advice of people like Hungry, GG&FB and Skullboy and have never had an issue.

Remember it is a light coat, you don't grab a hand full and throw it into the breech.
 
Lithium "stick"

For some areas on the M14 i like to use "dry" or "solid" lithium grease because it doesn't "travel". Its like a pencil. You just rub it on like a crayon. Hit the lugs, back of bolt where it rubs against the top of the reciever(half round), op rod groove and lug grooves. It stays where you put it. Doesn't soak into you gun case!:rolleyes:

Five, six bucks at crappy tire. Should last me a lifetime!:eek:

Break it in two, put half in your home cleaning kit and the other in the stock.
 
I wouldn't use grease, ever, it's just asking to get fouled up into a thick paste and cause problems after a good number of rounds. I use breakfree and that's it, you don't need anything else.
I think using grease on a direct impingment rifle is just a bad idea, remember it's the combustion gases that go right into the action, you want to use something that's not very viscous at all, like break free.
 
Brentn said:
I wouldn't use grease, ever, it's just asking to get fouled up into a thick paste and cause problems after a good number of rounds. I use breakfree and that's it, you don't need anything else.
I think using grease on a direct impingment rifle is just a bad idea, remember it's the combustion gases that go right into the action, you want to use something that's not very viscous at all, like break free.
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I think you missed the rifle we're talking about here, a M-14, not an AR-15. Last time I heard, M1's and M-14 don't operate properly with oil.
 
You just bought your M-14 ?? The grease on the stock is not lube, it is cosmolene, a packing grease.
 
No I know that much at least :) I mean the little bottle of oil that's in the stock compartment, along with the cleaning brush and the gas nut wrench.
 
Ah. Well that's good. Looks more oily than greasy, so I thought I done screwed it up since I applied it before reading this thread :)

Thanks for the info and for putting my mind at ease.
 
i rubbed it on myself:D

Seriously i put a little here and there where there is friction end of story ,,, i mean its a m14 that can run in the mud not a AR that has to be cleaned every 20 rounds :stirthepot2:
 
Guys, I'm sure Hungry will be in shortly to settle this once and for all.
But, the lube bottle has 2 sections, 1 section for oil/lube to clean the barrel, the other smaller section with the little finger on the cap for the grease. Remember this rifle is from the 50's, before they had wonder lubes like clp,militec etc.


And the m14 isnt direct gas impingement, its piston operated just like the FN and Daewoo. The AR's are direct gas.

And seriously though, if the AR wasnt restricted I'd have 2 of them instead of 2 norc m14s. The AR is much less work than the M14 IMO.
 
toya said:
I think you missed the rifle we're talking about here, a M-14, not an AR-15. Last time I heard, M1's and M-14 don't operate properly with oil.
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Missed it by a mile... not to sure why I thought it was an AR15...

sorry. ;P
 
Yup, I'm here. The manuals and my retired NRA High Power (High Master Classification) coach told me GREASE (and this was over 25 years ago). And I do wipe down the interior and exterior metal surfaces with Break Free and/or Militec (I use these liberally in my competition AR's). I'm just pointing back to the experts (not me). :rolleyes:

We can all agree on this bottom line: Do your best NOT to fire the rifle with a DRY Action! There we go! All is good! :D
 
Brentn said:
I wouldn't use grease, ever, it's just asking to get fouled up into a thick paste and cause problems after a good number of rounds. I use breakfree and that's it, you don't need anything else.
I think using grease on a direct impingment rifle is just a bad idea, remember it's the combustion gases that go right into the action, you want to use something that's not very viscous at all, like break free.
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I guess I was pretty lucky that my guns still fired with over a thousand rounds without cleaning.:rolleyes:

Most auto greases are designed to absorb and trap dirt particles and still function as intended. Otherwise your wheels would stop turning in a short time. I've never seen grease jam up an action. Grease also has the benifit of high pressure retension which oil does not.

As far as I've ever heard it's grease for m1's and m14's. I use my hungry's patented grease applicator (lee valley syringe) and squirt a dab directly on the lugs and work the action to get it spread out. Wipe off the excess.

Another trick shown to me from andother gun nutter is to fill up a 45 acp empty with grease and press it on the roller. It works like a wheel bearing packer and forces the grease into the roller's bearing surface.
 
wobbles99 said:
I guess I was pretty lucky that my guns still fired with over a thousand rounds without cleaning.:rolleyes:

Most auto greases are designed to absorb and trap dirt particles and still function as intended. Otherwise your wheels would stop turning in a short time. I've never seen grease jam up an action. Grease also has the benifit of high pressure retension which oil does not.

As far as I've ever heard it's grease for m1's and m14's. I use my hungry's patented grease applicator (lee valley syringe) and squirt a dab directly on the lugs and work the action to get it spread out. Wipe off the excess.

Another trick shown to me from andother gun nutter is to fill up a 45 acp empty with grease and press it on the roller. It works like a wheel bearing packer and forces the grease into the roller's bearing surface.
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I missed the question as I thought they were talking about ar15's and not M14/M1's, looks like you missed my correction on that. And when I was talking about grease I was referring to direct impingment rifles, not the M14.
 
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