M14 Trigger assembly test (video of problem)

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Can someone please explain the process to test the trigger assembly ?

I have read the sticky on top wrote by Morpheus32 but its not clear. Can someone explain a couple of step and expected visible/audible result clearly (for people that dont have X-Ray to see the action inside the receiver).
Edit: should I return my rifle?

Here is the video of my test:
[youtube]vz5WDbyWJTI[/youtube]
 
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arcaner said:
Can someone please explain the process to test the trigger assembly ?

I have read the sticky on top wrote by Morpheus32 but its not clear. Can someone explain a couple of step and expected visible/audible result clearly (for people that dont have X-Ray to see the action inside the receiver).
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Assuming you are talking about the safety test that we generally run any time the rifle has been apart:

1A) WARNING : Do not do this with ammunition in the rifle. G:

1) Rack the bolt back and let it go. This cocks the rifle.

2) Pull AND HOLD the trigger. Do not let it go.

3) WHILE HOLDING THE TRIGGER DOWN rack the bolt again. The hammer should NOT follow the bolt forward. If it does you have an issue. You can watch the hammer through the gap under the rear sight.
 
Then slowly release the trigger and you should hear the click of the sear catching & and if you hear that you should be good too go !:D
 
DO NOT FIRE THIS FIREARM WITH LIVE AMMO PLEASE!!!!
In-proper sear engagement!!
This will cause out of battery KABOOM!
 
I have seen an even weirder problem than this
when the bolt was racked by hand, the hammer wouldnt stay down

but when it is fired, the bolt lock the hammer back
 
mardig88 said:
I have seen an even weirder problem than this
when the bolt was racked by hand, the hammer wouldnt stay down

but when it is fired, the bolt lock the hammer back
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this is a warning sign hehehe
If your rifle fails the trigger test when racking by hand.....DO NOT FIRE THE RIFLE IT IS UNSAFE. this is not my opinion..... it is straight from the US military inspection sheet and is widely known to apply to all m14 type rifles.
i would ever so slightly remove some material from your stock's trigger pad bearing surfaces... **see the stickies**** assuming your's is not an aluminum stock. if it is, you need to remove the material from the actual trigger body at the bearing pad locations. Removing the material from an aluminum stock ruins it's resale value and makes it possibly incompatable with other trigger assemblies/rifle actions down the road.


unfortunately i can not view the video due to my dial up connection, so have no idea what is happening to your tigger.
Satain has been side by side with me in many discussions and trigger tear downs/tune ups so if he is saying not to fire it....... I'd probably consider his advice hehehe
 
thanks you all for your anwser.

For those that cannot see the video, the hammer follow the bolt when the trigger is kept pressed.

Is there an easy fix for this problem ?

By the way, this is a BRAND NEW rifle, no mod.
 
This happens to mine when I put it into my USGI stock, it's fine in the norc stock. The clearances are off and the new stock needs to be fitted properly. Good idea to take one of Hungry's M14 clinics.
 
crashcollins said:
This happens to mine when I put it into my USGI stock, it's fine in the norc stock. The clearances are off and the new stock needs to be fitted properly. Good idea to take one of Hungry's M14 clinics.
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There's going to be a Hungry clinic at Vankleek Hill Gun Club on March 19th. I'm not sure if there's still room, but you should PM Hungry and find out. I don't think you'd find a closer clinic.
 
As you said its new...If you bought it locally from a dealer in Montreal I say return it..its new get another one...read the stickies and posts here on the things to look out for (rear sights,flash eliminator canted,..) and go pick out a good one .

What is the dealers return policy if you ordered it from out of town ? Do you mind waiting for the new one again? If its too much hassle to return it go to Hungrys clinic in March as He puts on an excellent clinic full of info and help and I highly recommend going to one in either case .
 
My synthetic stock had the exact same issue. So I bought a Boyds walnut stock and when I first assembled it, it fail the trigger test. I ever so slightly relieved the trigger pad area on the Boyds stock. Tried the hammer test again and it passed !

So I went back and relieved the same spot on the synthetic stock ever so slightly and it also passed now.

I guess some rifles are very sensitive to the to the relation where the trigger pad sits on the stock.

I guess you could return it or try relieving the stock where the trigger pad sits. But then again, modifying it may void warranty or being able to return it.
 
I just swapped my synthetic stock on my pol 305 for a USGI stock, after some work on it and some painting the test after assembly failed :eek:.It was the first time it happened to me too..I just checked the stickies...(Thanks by the way guys) and scraped out some paint and a little bit of the fibreglass beneath the trigger pad on the stock.
It solved my problem in about 2 min total...so the fix for your synthetic maybe just as simple.
 
f55 said:
Thanks for the video arcaner, i had no idea about this issue, very worrying.
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It's not an "issue" , don't anyone panic LOL
the hammer follow test is a mandatory procedure when picking up any and all m14 type rifles.
after every cleaning
after removing and reinstalling to same stock or new stock
prior to firing at the bench
every mornin when you head out from huntin camp ;)

it is not a problem inherent to chinese rifles and applies to ALL m14 types, usgi, m1a chinese ect

In my opinion, if it came out of the box from a reputable dealer, don't muck with what could be a lemon......... send it back for exchange and have the dealer verify the hammer follow test prior to sending the new rifle out. I don't believe it's too much to ask that dealers/gunshops, make an effort to familiarize and check these and all m14 types for basic safe operation prior to putting them up on the rack for sale.
 
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