M14 weight

Chuck

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My new M14 shorty is a surprisingly hefty 11 lbs with the sling and an empty magazine. From what I see online I expected a weight of around nine pounds. Where is the unexpected weight coming from? Is the plastic stock that darned heavy? It seems like a great rifle but it would be better yet if I could drop a couple pounds of excess weight.
 
no, it's the steel in the rifle- various "attempts"have been tried to lighten it, but no matter which way you cut it, the basic m1/m14 weighs about 11 pounds- even my beretta folder, which is a skeleton stock still weighs 11 pounds- a full size m14 weighs 11 1/4 with the 20 round magazine adding another half pound- lets face it a piece of steel tube 4 inches long is NOT going to lose you any more than a few ounces if that- that's the ONLY difference between the shorty and the full size, so you should expect roughly the same weight- i don't know where you got an expectation of around 9 pounds, but it's wrong- and out by a couple- there's almost no way to get it to that weight and make it reliable
 
The M14 rifle's specs are:
9.8 lb (4.4 kg) empty (no magazine, no sling)
11.5 lb (5.2 kg) w/ loaded magazine

When the US Army resurrected the M14 as a DMR rifle in Afganistan, the soldier who were issued the rifles could not believe that the previous generation rifle weighted around 13 pounds with accessories.

Alex
 
i don't know where you got an expectation of around 9 pounds, but it's wrong- and out by a couple- there's almost no way to get it to that weight and make it reliable

Springfield Armory lists them as being much lighter at 8.8lbs:

http://www.springfield-armory.com/armory.php?version=37

Perhaps they are being "optimistic"
 
to quote fm23-8 , page 4 general data
weight in pounds ( weights are approximate
m14 rifle, (with full magazine and cleaning equipment) 11 1/4 pounds
m14 rifle ( with full magazine , cleaning equipment, selector and bipod 13 pounds
weight of empty magazine .5 pounds
weight of full magazine( 20 rounds) 1.5 pounds
11.25- 1.5= 9.75
but that's all IN MY FM23-8 WHICH WAS PUBLISHED IN 63- in other words, stripped, it weighed 9 3/4 pounds back in 63 as well- but what is the point of weighing a STRIPPED rifle?
 
I humped an M14 with krieger DMR medium stainless barrel, boyd's fat NM stock, harris bipod, day pack (20lbs) and my gear belt, spare mags, hatchet, knife, flashlight, sharpening stone, for 7 days hunting the beaches and rain forest in the queen charlottes. Don't know the final rifle weight, but I'd do it again in a heart beat.
 
Ha ha ha

It's STEEL :eek: , whaddaya expect? I try to get around all this with a gym membership! Problem solved!

If I wanted light weight I woulda brung my middy Armalite M15... :cool: Whooops, we can't hunt with AR15 rifles. :nest: Maybe I should speak to my Conservative MP Dr. Kellie Leitch. :D

:cheers:

Barney
 
Whooops, we can't hunt with AR15 rifles. :nest: Maybe I should speak to my Conservative MP Dr. Kellie Leitch. :D

Yes, please do. After the registry is finally staked, I plan to get on a first-name basis with my MP... :nest: :nest:

I remember when my regiment switched from the C1A1 to the new C7... One long-time Master Corporal said, sadly..." It just doesn't feel like a rifle'...
 
the rest of the saying: it feels more like MATTY MATTEL'S PLAYTHING- oh, those were the days-sarge, i hit him but he didn't go down; here, let ME hit him with a REAL rifle. why do you think there were 2 m14s in every section?- what i would't give for a section of big swedes that didn't feel the weight
 
Anyone who thinks an M-14 is heavy, should pick up a C6 MAG-58 M-240G !!! Not exactly "handy"...and yet I wouldn't want our boys to be without that kind of firepower.

PS: wood vs plastic stocks used to make a big difference on FN FAL/C1's...Canadian issue ones had the wood, then the Brit surplus L1A1's with the plastic seemed so light by comparison.

With that in mind, has anyone actually weighed the Chinese plastic, compared to a USGI fibreglass, compared to say a wood walnut or something? I'm curious about actual differences in weight.
 
My shorty M1A with USGI stock, Leupold scout scope on an Ultimak rail is 11.7 pounds, with a 5 rnd mag.

I hunted whitetail in Ontario with it two years ago. Great rifle, but I have "wimped" out since and changed to a Marlin GBL 18.5" in 45/70 for deer/moose. Much lighter. :D
 
My Norc shorty dressed in a Troy MCS stock with a small 3-9x33 Burris scope and no mag weighed in at 13 and 3/4 pounds. It was this fact alone I didn't use it for hunting this year. I haven't give up hope yet, almost time to renew my gym pass.
 
Anyone who thinks an M-14 is heavy, should pick up a C6 MAG-58 M-240G !!! Not exactly "handy"...and yet I wouldn't want our boys to be without that kind of firepower.

PS: wood vs plastic stocks used to make a big difference on FN FAL/C1's...Canadian issue ones had the wood, then the Brit surplus L1A1's with the plastic seemed so light by comparison.

With that in mind, has anyone actually weighed the Chinese plastic, compared to a USGI fibreglass, compared to say a wood walnut or something? I'm curious about actual differences in weight.


I have on in Boyds walnut and one fiberglass USGI. The wood is lighter. I beleive the chinese plastic was the heaviest out of all 3.
 
New m305 shorty just received from Canada Ammo:

Weight of bare rifle: 9lbs 3oz
with an empty 5/20rd mag: 9lbs 12oz

It seems about right to me. And I cannot for the life of me think of a better reason to carry around 9lbs 12oz. :D
 
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