M1A and M1 Fail Spectacularly
- Thread starter Goose762
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Why does everyone think soldiers go around throwing their rifles into mud, swamps and sand pits, lol. I'm not a soldier but I never drop my rifles in sh!t , therefore I don't care how a rifle functions when caked in mud. Finally that is no way to treat a Garand , sully it and wack it off a wheelbarrow , lol.
When I did my SQ I realized how finicky the AR plateform is (C7 in that case) and its humid outside sand gets on the magazine and receiver and jam the action if you are not careful. It has to be kept very clean or it starts malfunctioning.
That beign said I dont have the same kind of experience with another rifle but the US troops doesnt seem to compain about the EBR in the sand.
That beign said I dont have the same kind of experience with another rifle but the US troops doesnt seem to compain about the EBR in the sand.
??? From any newsreel or photos of soldiers storming and beaches that I have watched, they held their rifles over their heads to avoid getting water,sand or seafood in their weapon. IF, the rifle was in the condition shown in the wheelbarrow, the grunt who was holding the rifle would likely have much more serious problems to attend to.
DaveMachine
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Kind of surprised by their other results - the AK functioned as a bolt action and the AR15 ran seemingly no problem. I was a bit disappointed when my coveted VZ58 failed miserably. 
That said, not exactly an entirely realistic test but interesting none the less.
That said, not exactly an entirely realistic test but interesting none the less.
DaveMachine
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Relax guys - you make it sound like they kicked your dog.
Because when bullets or artillery start flying around you dive for cover, usually low lying, low lying is often full of water and mud. Oops gun covered in mud. Or you land on the beaches of Normandy and wade through water onto a sandy beach, gee wiz what happens when sand touches wet objects? Or you are in a sandstorm in Iraq and the sand gets into the mechanism and sticks to the gun oil. Combat conditions can be very different from range conditions. I love my 1911 for the range but I would prefer a Sig or a Glock or Beretta in combat conditions. Less prone to jamb in crappy conditions and easier to clear if they do jamb. Just ask the first generation of soldier who used the M16 in Vietnam. Oh wait a minute a whole bunch were killed because their M16 jambed so you might have trouble finding them.
Wonder what the real statics of say heat of battle failures for the M1 in Korea that cost GI's their lives because rifle didn't fire RIGHT NOW.
Even if it's not somehow determined there IS a number for that. No way it didn't happen.
Sure, the test might seam kinda stupid and it's easy to say "just keep it clean" but in the middle of it, it happens.
Probably impossible but be interesting to know the real truth.
This type of test isn't stupid. When stuff starts flying by YOUR head you are more worried about hitting the ground and NOT what happens when your rifle hits during the process.
Even if it's not somehow determined there IS a number for that. No way it didn't happen.
Sure, the test might seam kinda stupid and it's easy to say "just keep it clean" but in the middle of it, it happens.
Probably impossible but be interesting to know the real truth.
This type of test isn't stupid. When stuff starts flying by YOUR head you are more worried about hitting the ground and NOT what happens when your rifle hits during the process.
DaveMachine
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- That one place with a cowboy complex
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DaveMachine
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- That one place with a cowboy complex
Except the AR15 apparently.
