M1A to M1 Garand

[Leg]

Now that is interesting! I’d love to see completed pics.

I was wanting to build something similar but with a BM59 gas cylinder and op rod. Sadly BM59 gas cylinder is damn near impossible to find up here.

 

[maple_leaf_eh]

While we are discussing M1-305 conversions, check out the Cuban solution to magazine fed Garands. The receiver is still a Garand, which is still on the lists of OK guns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fjYaSaiUZo&feature=emb_title

 

[Janeau]

Interesting..but would not convert a Garand in a config that will look like a prohib....but will modify a prohib in a Garand config if it could be done.

 

[JGPinYYC]

This is interesting. So a Springfield M1A is now prohibited but an M1 Garand is still acceptable?

 

[enefgee]

M1A1 is .45 ACP

I thought it was 30 carbine?

 

[machman]

This is interesting. So a Springfield M1A is now prohibited but an M1 Garand is still acceptable?

The M1A has an evil removable 20(5) round magazine, and the Garand doesn't, lol.

 

[maple_leaf_eh]

This is interesting. So a Springfield M1A is now prohibited but an M1 Garand is still acceptable?

The design inspiration of the M14 is what gets the M305 and all the M1A catalogue listings on the really bad list. The Garand's most inspired engineering weakness is its enbloc clip, and also its saving grace. Until the feds get around to incorporating into law what 16 features make a gun really really bad, the M1 Garand is safe on the FRT. But M305 mags are blocked at 5 shots, so why lose 3 legal rounds if only for the technical experimentation?

FWIW, there are lots of cheap Italian M1 receivers for sale and plenty of now house-bound M305s. Just saying ......

 

[machman]

I'd love to see a new thread dedicated to the M305/Garand hybrid.

 

[tiriaq]

Back in the '70s, Garth Choate was doing magazine conversions on M-1 rifles; not unlike the Erquiaga conversion in the forgottenweapons video.

 

[Quiet]

While we are discussing M1-305 conversions, check out the Cuban solution to magazine fed Garands. The receiver is still a Garand, which is still on the lists of OK guns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fjYaSaiUZo&feature=emb_title

This conversion involves permanent modification to the receiver in order to accept the magazine, so I wouldn't count on it remaining protected on the grounds of being an M1 Garand.

 

[maple_leaf_eh]

This conversion involves permanent modification to the receiver in order to accept the magazine, so I wouldn't count on it remaining protected on the grounds of being an M1 Garand.

Inoperable with a clip or not, the Criminal Code says if a firearm can be fired, it is a firearm. The current wording of the Code does not paint shades of gray around other functions. Single loaded it would still be a Garand. Remember, it doesn't have to make sense, we're discussing the Firearms Act.

 

[Quiet]

Inoperable with a clip or not, the Criminal Code says if a firearm can be fired, it is a firearm. The current wording of the Code does not paint shades of gray around other functions. Single loaded it would still be a Garand. Remember, it doesn't have to make sense, we're discussing the Firearms Act.

The RCMP lab doesn't seem be expected to make any sense in its declarations either, so it becomes a risk to reward decision for the individual.

 

[can14]

Back in 1971 I visited a company in Rosemead California that made bm59 and m1 garand rifle carbine's
They shortened m1 garand barrels and op rods to work with a GI gas cylinder to make the Garand Carbine

 

[sgmacken]

You guys all need to be checking out Shuff’s...


http://shuffsparkerizing.com/shuffs-bm14-garand/

 

[garandguy10]

Back in 1971 I visited a company in Rosemead California that made bm59 and m1 garand rifle carbine's
They shortened m1 garand barrels and op rods to work with a GI gas cylinder to make the Garand Carbine

Most likely you are thinking about Golden State Arms in Pasadena, California, Federal Ordnance in South El Monte, California or National Ordnance in South El Monte, California,
Or maybe AR Sales in Azuza, California. All businesses located within a few miles of Rosemead, California. Or maybe you are thinking about one of the many small mom and pop gun stores in the area at the time.
Sadly all gone from California now.

Back then California was a much more diverse and liberal state, with much more freedom than we have today now with one party rule and a dictatorial governor and very willing legislature.

Freedom is easily lost, as I am sure you Canadians are finding out...

 

[tiriaq]

I believe some of those rifles were made up by sleeving 2 groove 03A3 barrels into M-1 barrel stumps. Some were also made using rewelded demilled receivers.

 

[buckbrush]

didn't a movie gun company in Vancouver make a Garand in 7.62 nato using M-305 parts?

 

[can14]

The Company I went to had lots of new m1 and bm59 parts that they made into rifles or parts kits

 

[Murray 3-D]

Im sure we"ll all be back to shooting and enjoying our M14s within 2 years

 

[machman]

I e-mailed Columbus Machine Works (noted US op-rod rebuilder) about making an op-rod for an M14/M1 Garand hybrid and here is what the president of the company, Mike Stacey replied:
"It’s an interesting idea, but I will have to decline.
The original metal state in USGI op rods is extremely tough in order to withstand the forces they receive. Including the weld joint between the tube part and the handle extension. Any welding to an op rod will permanently remove that heat treatment. It’s a marvel they stay together at that weld as it is.
Still cylinder/piston design, a nice compromise is the Beretta lowered gas cylinder that uses a perfectly straight M1 rod."