M1D Garand Scope or Mount availability?

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Hey Guys,

A few years ago I was lucky enough to pickup an M1D Garand. Unfortunately, it didn't come with any of the furnishings (scope, mount, or cheekriser). Wondering if anyone has seen any of these parts available in Canada? I'm really hoping to find the mount, but it seems Out of Stock everywhere I look and items on Ebay only ship US (I've asked)

Original parts certainly aren't cheap, but I can't seem to have much luck finding repro's either
 
There are ebay vendors in Greece and Holland who sell original M84 M1D scopes, mounts, flash hiders and cheek pieces and who will ship to Canada. These are all pretty pricey.

Repro cheekpieces, flash hiders and mounts are widely available from places like Sarco and GPC. GPC stocks Chinese made repro M84 scopes, but won't export.

I've gotten an original M84 scope, flash hider and cheek piece from the EE here on CGN. I went overseas for the M1D mount.

As a temporary measure a Lyman Alaskan scope (7/8 inch dia) will work OK in the M1D mount. The Alaskan is still a good scope.
 
Ive bought the M1d scope and mount from them. They also have a pretty decent 4T mount and scope they will export. Just call them, and ask for the international sales desk.
 
Finding or making an M1D rifle is the easiest and in some ways, the cheapest part. ANY M1 Garand can, by Mr. Garand’s design, be converted by putting on an M1D barrel and M1D handguard or modifying a havdgyard. About 12,000 spare M1D barrels were made in the 1950s. Finding an original M84 scope, original M1D scope mount, original cheek rest, original flash hider or flash suppressor and an original sling are the hard part. You are competing with many rifle owners in the USA. Americans can buy M1, M1C and M1D rifles direct from the Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP), but there even they have run out of original mounts and scopes as I recall and buyers have to get along with replica accessories unless they can find originals for sale somewhere. Even when you find original parts & accessories, they are expensive, especially with the U.S. Dollar exchange rate. Add to that the legal implications of ITAR.
 
DistriCorp bought the m1ds from Denmark. They had them for sale for a very
short time as complete rifles.
Then they parted them out and sold scope with mounts and the flash hiders.
Then they stopped and sold the complete m1d parts kit to the US
I don't know how many complete gun sets were sold here. Someone might
know how many guns were in the original shipment.
I don't think there were that many
 
I bought one of the Danish surplus M1Ds when they came in. It was a bona fide M1D with the correct barrel and Danish FKF/crown markings on the M84 scope. One point of curiosity was the that the s/n was stamped on top of the stock on the right side below where the op rod runs. The Danes stamped the s/n on the bottom of the stock ahead of the sling swivel on the majority of their Garands, but this one is different.

There's been some discussion as to whether or not the Danes may have converted some of their Breda/Beretta made Garands to M1D configuration and this is certainly within the realm of possibility. The Danes did adapt some of these for a night vision scope by welding a couple of brackets onto the left side of the receiver, but these were different than the M1D sniper rifles.
 
Great info- thank you all

I can confirm that the CMP is all dried up on Original optics and parts, they do have a repro M82 scope and mount for about 400 USD

On a less discussed note, what are CGN'ers opinions on the flash hiders? I understand there were at least 2 models, a Conical and Pronged model are fairly easy to find pictures of online. Has anyone seen these for sale?
 
The conical flash hiders were the original models devised for the M1C during WW2 and then carried over for use on the M1D. The prong type were developed in the 1950s.

The conical models fit over the muzzle and lock onto the bayo lug and tend to fit loosely which introduces vibrations that are detrimental for accuracy, a bad thing in any rifle, esp a sniper rifle.:sok2 The prong type replace the gas cyl lock and screw onto the barrel threads which should create less looseness/vibration.

The conical FHs look very cool, but I always remove them when shooting my M1C and M1D.;)

There is a bona-fide Italian issue copy of the conical style. There are also cast metal repros of the prong style in circulation. I've seen all types in sale on ebay.
 
purple said:
The conical flash hiders were the original models devised for the M1C during WW2 and then carried over for use on the M1D. The prong type were developed in the 1950s.

The conical models fit over the muzzle and lock onto the bayo lug and tend to fit loosely which introduces vibrations that are detrimental for accuracy, a bad thing in any rifle, esp a sniper rifle.:sok2 The prong type replace the gas cyl lock and screw onto the barrel threads which should create less looseness/vibration.

The conical FHs look very cool, but I always remove them when shooting my M1C and M1D.;)

There is a bona-fide Italian issue copy of the conical style. There are also cast metal repros of the prong style in circulation. I've seen all types in sale on ebay.
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Great info thank you very much! Seems the Italians received many of the Surplus rifles after The War, they must still be hanging around if they're willing to repro the conical FH. The pronged FH seems to be the more widely available, though the average pricing would suggest they are still in demand!

Does anyone have experience with Repro M84 Scopes? A students budget keeps my eyes on them, but the collector in me screams for an original kit
 
I understand the imports came out of Norway.....

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I've had virtually every type of M1D flash hider.

The Hart conical...flopped around loose like a fish on the bank. I couldn't believe it. What a lousy design, but as purple said, they do look cool.

Yes, the pronged ones fit up much better with no slop. Didn't look as nice though.


purple said:
The conical flash hiders were the original models devised for the M1C during WW2 and then carried over for use on the M1D. The prong type were developed in the 1950s.

The conical models fit over the muzzle and lock onto the bayo lug and tend to fit loosely which introduces vibrations that are detrimental for accuracy, a bad thing in any rifle, esp a sniper rifle.:sok2 The prong type replace the gas cyl lock and screw onto the barrel threads which should create less looseness/vibration.

The conical FHs look very cool, but I always remove them when shooting my M1C and M1D.;)

There is a bona-fide Italian issue copy of the conical style. There are also cast metal repros of the prong style in circulation. I've seen all types in sale on ebay.
Click to expand...
 
The guns from Norway came without the accessories. The guns came
here and the accessories went to California.
 
There were also a number of M1Ds imported from Denmark. The giveaway on these was the scope marked with an inventory number and the Danish Crown/ FKF marking that is seen on the Danish surplus Breda and Beretta garands. The stock on mine is stamped with the rifle s/n on the top surface below the op rod handle which is a switch from the usual Danish practice of stamping the s/n on the bottom of the butt between the grip and the lower sling swivel.
 
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