M305 first time out

[delta1]

After the initial cleaning about 3hrs. worth I mean covered in grease inside and out, some soft some hard. Tried it out at 100 would not hit paper at 25 yds withsights all the way down had to take some off of the top of the front sight to hit on target. Now she works with he hash marks out to 350 yds after that she is off again. Still only using Selleir and Beloit made in 1969. At 100 she is in the 1 1/2 in. range at 350 she is a 10 inch rifle.
A question what is in the Czech ammunition that make it corrosive and is it the same in the 1986 ammunition.
Also about every 5 rounds or so I will get a round that smokes and smells very strong any ideas as to what this would be.
To bad my left arm is a little gimpy and i have to use the bench, otherwise this old man had a ball.

 

[cariboo_kid]

Sounds like you got a good shooter there, congratulations.

FYI, taking material off the top of the front sight raises the point of impact. You could have put the rear sight up a click or two to get the same result. The rear sight can be adjusted to read the correct distance after you have got the point of impact where you want it.

Sorry I can't help with your questions, but I'm glad you are enjoying one of the best firearms values out there.

 

[Couch-Gator]

No sure exactly about the smoke/smell - I've noticed the same thing once in awhile but doesn't seem to matter what ammo I'm using. Maybe its the temp of the barrel that produces more smoke/smell than anything else.

 

[cariboo_kid]

I should also mention that even though the rifle was american in origin, the sights are calibrated in meters rather than yards. Strange but true.

 

[Winz]

I should also mention that even though the rifle was american in origin, the sights are calibrated in meters rather than yards. Strange but true.

The M14 is supposed to be in meters.

 

[bearhunter]

Delta1, if you "took some off the top", you should be shooting higher still. Are you sure you're useing a proper sight picture? bearhunter

 

[cariboo_kid]

Yes that is the point I was making, as the original poster was trying to use it for yards at fairly long distances (350+).

 

[delta1]

CGNrs Originally the rifle would not hit paper all shots where low with the rear sight all the way down. I set the sight at zero or 100 yds or meters, and had to file the front sight as it shot low about 18 in. When I had removed enough front sight it was on at 100. I have shot peep and what we now call ghost ring for over 45 yrs. Shoot my Martini's into lessthan an in. at 100 yds that is 22 cal. have my best one for sale on this site all original model 12.
Anyway the rifle will hold with the hash marks for the 350 yds all right but after that are again off, using 1969 zcech ball [Nato] marked boxes

 

[Hitzy]

CGNrs Originally the rifle would not hit paper all shots where low with the rear sight all the way down. I set the sight at zero or 100 yds or meters, and had to file the front sight as it shot low about 18 in. When I had removed enough front sight it was on at 100. I have shot peep and what we now call ghost ring for over 45 yrs. Shoot my Martini's into lessthan an in. at 100 yds that is 22 cal. have my best one for sale on this site all original model 12.
Anyway the rifle will hold with the hash marks for the 350 yds all right but after that are again off, using 1969 zcech ball [Nato] marked boxes

You should have just raised the rear sight to get on paper rather then file the front sight down........easiest fix when a rifle is shooting low.
I don't think czechslovakia was part of NATO in 1969........

 

[Coyote Ugly]

I should also mention that even though the rifle was american in origin, the sights are calibrated in meters rather than yards. Strange but true.

Just as another tidbit, the M1941 Johnson Rifle in .30-06 and 7mm, the sights are also marked in meters rather than yards.

 

[delta1]

If I had just raised the rear sight I would not have had the full range of sighting when setting the drum to zero. Since the front post was to high to begin with it needed fixing anyway now it's done.

 

[Hitzy]

If I had just raised the rear sight I would not have had the full range of sighting when setting the drum to zero. Since the front post was to high to begin with it needed fixing anyway now it's done.

It's also likely that if you switch ammo (go to a heavier bullet), you will not be able to get on paper at 100m as it will shoot too high and you will have no adjustments now.....front sights are cheap though.
The markings on the drum are not overly reliable for target shooting, better counting clics for the various ranges starting from full down. The extra couple clics you gained will help at 800+m, which most folks rarely shoot with irons....

 

[Polar Man]

Is this the same gun you sold me recently on the EE?
I was shooting high on it yesterday, ran out of ammo before I got a hit on target. (all we had was a pop bottle at 60 yards or so.)Do I ask around for a front sight in the EE?

 

[MTM]

The smokey/smelly rounds could be pierced/blown primers. I have a bunch of military ammo the plows primers consistantly. It was the first stuff I tried in my 305. Bunch of crap sold to me by a buddy. Its marked '77 I believe. Blows them in bolt guns too. I only fired 3-4 rounds to confirm that it was the ammo and not the gun. Funtions fine with everything else.

 

[RifleDude]

I should also mention that even though the rifle was american in origin, the sights are calibrated in meters rather than yards. Strange but true.

The US military has been using the metric system ever since NATO was established. That's why calibers are also expressed in metric, i.e 7.62mmm, 5.56mm, 20mm, 40mm, 155mm etc. Distances are measured in meters or kilometers, etc. Well....you get the picture