M305 is heavy

Don't go on the hunting rifle forum claiming a 10 + lb rifle isn't to heavy unless you have your flame suit on...personally I don't think it's too heavy but I sure got flamed by a lot of the hunting crowd...seems the response was if its over 8 lbs it should stay at home.
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What is your starting weight?

Pictured below is a standard weight 18.0" barreled action complete with trigger group
and a heavier than standard SAGE op rod guide block plus a DC Vortex flash eliminator.
Included in the 6 pound total weight is an EBR trigger shoe and SADLAK mag release.
There is no front sight...

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I wanted to reserve my comment until I got my own M-14. I never really handled one other than for a couple seconds at a gun store. But now that I'm the proud owner of an M-14, I have to say, it's not that heavy really.

Of course, every ounce counts when you're hiking, or on a combat patrol (I'm a pure civi). But I feel that 10lbs isn't too much considering the round this rifle fires, and it's capabilities. I don't feel that the 10-11lbs of this rifle represents anything approaching "too heavy".
 
Call this number, it will lighten your rifle over time;

1 (900) CHI-NUPS

Lol, just poking fun, its a bit heavier than an AR, but 5.56 just isn't appropriate in every situation, and larger caliber rifles are just going to weigh more. Just be happy you dont have to hump 10 20 rd mags of 7.62 everywhere you go. Thats TWICE the weight of the 5.56.

If you dont have to keep it cased on the way to the club house just put it in a gun-sock, cut small holes to attach your sling and boom
 
you should try her mother the all mighty GARAND shis much heavier than the m14.once you get used to the garand m14 feels like a little baby
 
deagle2008 said:
you should try her mother the all mighty GARAND shis much heavier than the m14.once you get used to the garand m14 feels like a little baby
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where the he** did you get that IDEA- they weigh roughly THE SAME -rouigly 9.5 to 11.6, depending on the components and stock used- no doubt the next one through the gate will say the garand is LONGER as well- well, try 44 1/8 vs 43 1/2 it's the same WEIGHT, just DISTRIBUTED DIFFERENTLY
 
The cleaning kit weighs 276 grams and if someone ever think he needs to have a cleaning kit I see no significant benefit of storing it in the stock.

The hinged butt plate can be replaced by a rubber buttplate for an insignificant price and accodring to some other guy, it saves a significant amount of weight. (Did you ever used the hinged plate and felt it help you in a significant manner?)

Someone mentionned something about removing the clip guide... that sounds like a good idea to me as it takes little time to perform the modification and it costs nothing. I doubt it would reduce the weight by much but the clip guide is pure dead weight unless you intend to use it. (Do you have a clip?)

There is quite a few of you that said reducing weight was pointless because you "feel" the weight of an M305 is no an issue. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO43p2Wqc08)

Others mentionned something related to the "fact" that the weight of an M305 is not a problem even for a person that is not in an especially good shape. (We all really want to know how tough you are, right?)

...but nobody said how the weight of the hinged buttplate, the clip guide or a cleaning kit stored in the weapon actually helped the weapon to perform it primary function significantly!

This is a rifle, not a dumbbell!

The purpose is to shoot and it does not need to be uselessly heavy!

I say: lose all the dead weight and let's start where it is inexpensive and easy to do.
 
Until you have lugged a Hakim, M1917 Enfield or Mauser kar98k, you have no business complaining about the weight of a rifle, and the M14 is lighter than those three listed.
 
ohh well my m14 feels way lighter than my garand i guess its the stock
t-star said:
where the he** did you get that IDEA- they weigh roughly THE SAME -rouigly 9.5 to 11.6, depending on the components and stock used- no doubt the next one through the gate will say the garand is LONGER as well- well, try 44 1/8 vs 43 1/2 it's the same WEIGHT, just DISTRIBUTED DIFFERENTLY
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(This thread would be a lot more interesting/relevant if people actually posted about reducing the weight of an M305 instead of talking about... other weapon's weight, their own weight(wtf?), physical fitness or other not-even-remotely related subject.)

In case someone wanted to mount a red dot on a M305 they could get the M14/M1A CASM® "RD" mount. It weighs only 2 ounces and fits in the rear sight pocket... which means you remove the 3,25 ounce rear sight.

This mount can be used as an emergency rear sight so if your red dot fails you still have a basic backup sight.

In other words: if you want to mount a red dot on a M305 you do not actually need to install a mount that adds weight.

In the case you already have mounted glass/red dot on the weapon and do not feel back up sight is a necessity then why don't you remove sights as it is dead weight to you?
 
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TCBF said:
- I thought the FN-C1 was heavy (11 pounds), then they issued me an FN-C2 (15.4 pounds)... then a Carl Gustaf (35 1/2 pounds...).
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:D I was always the favorite of all my section commanders. If there was a support weapon to carry I'd end up with it. It went so far as on one exercise I was acting Section 2IC and still had a C2.

The weapon is nothing. All the other gear is what really drags you down. Paratroopers have it even worse. You haul everything. I always found it funny we called regular Infantry "Legs" and we did all the walking.
 
redshooter said:
:D I was always the favorite of all my section commanders. If there was a support weapon to carry I'd end up with it. It went so far as on one exercise I was acting Section 2IC and still had a C2.

The weapon is nothing. All the other gear is what really drags you down. Paratroopers have it even worse. You haul everything. I always found it funny we called regular Infantry "Legs" and we did all the walking.
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section commanders were kind of funny that way- they would get the "smallest" trooper to carrry the heaviest weapon- funny, though, on the other side of the border, you picked the biggest you could find- somebody of NORDIC ancestry, typically, or a good big farm boy
 
energy8667 said:
(This thread would be a lot more interesting/relevant if people actually posted about reducing the weight of an M305 instead of talking about... other weapon's weight, their own weight(wtf?), physical fitness or other not-even-remotely related subject.)

In case someone wanted to mount a red dot on a M305 they could get the M14/M1A CASM® "RD" mount. It weighs only 2 ounces and fits in the rear sight pocket... which means you remove the 3,25 ounce rear sight.

This mount can be used as an emergency rear sight so if your red dot fails you still have a basic backup sight.

In other words: if you want to mount a red dot on a M305 you do not actually need to install a mount that adds weight.

In the case you already have mounted glass/red dot on the weapon and do not feel back up sight is a necessity then why don't you remove sights as it is dead weight to you?
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b/c,in the real world, you can't do that much to lighten the m14- sure, you can do as you suggested and take off the rear sight, take the cleaning kit out of the tail, and put on a skeletonized stock ( like a paratrooper bm59)but at then end of the day you still end up with a 10 pound gun- even shortening the barrel doesn't help all that much- let's face it, taking a half pound or so off a 11pound or better gun is not all that noticible- it might even be detremental- my folder still weighs in at better than 10 pounds and now kicls like a mule b/c that 59 stock is nothing but a couple of tubes and a buttplate
there's no room for a cleaning kit either- that's a pull-through in the pistol grip
 
I have the opposite problem. My M14 is too light. I keep losing it, spend hours looking for it, just to find it tucked in my belt, or even in my left hand sometimes ...

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And the obligatory FMJ clip...FS&G

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