M305 Problems / Questions

I think I am going to try the tactical teachers monday night clinic, but first call SFRC and see what they think. I can't seem to undo the gas lock and slide the gas system forward.
 
MhyPiau


Here is a picture showing how the bayonet lug is stopping me from removing the gas piston
 
You might need to persuade the gas lock over a little to get it started, with a mallet or something that won't mar the surface. Make sure the piston is all the way down when you do it though ;)
 
84wh1 said:
Try posting in the battle rifle forum. Always lots of smart m305 guys in that forum
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Best advice. World of info in there. Plus guys will help you out.

FYI my old M305 was the exact same with the tight mag. The stock is probably forcing pressure on the mag well and causing it to bind. Very common I hear. Not to worry.
 
You are new here and I want to help just please don't be offended by my question.

Wen you loaded your first round did you pull the op rod all the way to the back and drop it or did you ride it forward? ( meaning you held the op rod as it moved forward) cause to me it sound like you did and the round did not sit properly on the bolt face.

Your stiff mag issue, Well its really easy to fix. Take a look in the magwell, you see the mag release lever? Well it's straight and it needs to be at a angle so a little bit of material needs to be remove and the it works flawlessly------- pm me for details--------

I just cut off the bayonet lug as you cant fit a bayonet on a shorty.

It take a center punch a hammer and 5 minutes to aligne your op rod guide. You need to disassemble your rifle, once the op rod is removed you need to remove the op rod guide roll pin then gently knock your op rod guide forward. Then use the center punch to pintle the hell out of it, then knock back the guide at its place. Temporarily install the op rod so you can do the final adjustment on your guide the re insert the roll pin and voila !
 
rally guy said:
You are new here and I want to help just please don't be offended by my question.

Wen you loaded your first round did you pull the op rod all the way to the back and drop it or did you ride it forward? ( meaning you held the op rod as it moved forward) cause to me it sound like you did and the round did not sit properly on the bolt face.

Your stiff mag issue, Well its really easy to fix. Take a look in the magwell, you see the mag release lever? Well it's straight and it needs to be at a angle so a little bit of material needs to be remove and the it works flawlessly------- pm me for details--------

I just cut off the bayonet lug as you cant fit a bayonet on a shorty.

It take a center punch a hammer and 5 minutes to aligne your op rod guide. You need to disassemble your rifle, once the op rod is removed you need to remove the op rod guide roll pin then gently knock your op rod guide forward. Then use the center punch to pintle the hell out of it, then knock back the guide at its place. Temporarily install the op rod so you can do the final adjustment on your guide the re insert the roll pin and voila !
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what he said :D
I'm trying to convince a couple lowermainland long time m14 enthusiasts to start up doing m14 clinics for you guys. I've moved yet again and way further out in the stix this time...... if I move again in my lifetime, it'll be across the border LOL
 
Hi, yes I am new but don't worry I am not offended, I have a lot to learn. I believe I let it drop, I didnt ride it forward. I put in the magazine and pulled the bolt back to bring one into the chamber. The main problem I am having is the rounds are becoming stuck in the chamber and not ejecting.
 
mcgaffey said:
Hi, yes I am new but don't worry I am not offended, I have a lot to learn. I believe I let it drop, I didnt ride it forward. I put in the magazine and pulled the bolt back to bring one into the chamber. The main problem I am having is the rounds are becoming stuck in the chamber and not ejecting.
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Is the extractor present on the bolt? Can you post a picture of the bolt face?
 
Update: I cleaned the chamber again very thoroughly and took it out back and loaded it up and tried to cycle it. This time it worked significantly better. I tried the Hornady Whitetail and Federal Powershock, they both cycled and extracted. I haven't had a chance to fire it yet but it is looking like my problem is solved. It jammed a couple times but I think there is maybe a small amount of cosmoline that I have missed which is causing it to stick. Also I spoke to Ryan from SFRC, thanks to him and SFRC for calling me back so quickly and assuring me that I will be taken care of if their is something mechanically wrong, which I don't think there is. He was very helpful. I am going to be contacting the Tactical Teacher monday night clinic and see if I can schedule a time to go up to barrie and get it tuned. I am relieved that it seems to be working and ejecting now!

Here are pictures of my bolt face if anyone is interested

http://imgur.com/utCcEMA,lROVQa4,FHWxVml,b2eY9eO#0
 
Bolt face looks ok (or at least like mine!)

Sounds like you had some crud stuck in the chamber jamming the rounds. Was the brass deformed when you got it out? ( perhaps a ding or dent? )

The rifles arrive bathed in a greasy oil, they need very careful cleaning throughout and re-oiling/ greasing before use. Don't use the dishwasher, though ;)
 
OP - If you haven't shot it yet you may also want to take apart the rear aperture sight and clean it. I didn't do this the first time I used mine and ended up with packing oil all over my face. The recoil causes it to spatter out of the sight.
 
Taking a 5 rounder out of any M-14 style rifle isn't easy. It's mostly due to the flush fit, but they just stick sometimes.
You get a manual with it? Read same. If not go to here and download the free FM 23-8 .pdf. You might as well get the M14 & M14A1 and the M14 & M1 Garand Accurizing manual too. Note the need for the provided UN & PW.
 
If memory serves me right, never feed a M1, M1A (M305) rounds directly into the chamber. Always feed rounds through the magazine (en-bloc for M1). Feeding the rounds manually doesn't seem like it would allow the bolt to catch the brass and may push the round to far into the barrel causing issues with headspace? I personally would never/have never single fed directly into the chamber with my Garand. Rounds are always fed from the en-bloc.

I'm sure someone can clarify this better then I can.

EDIT: I think I misunderstood your post, rounds where indeed fed from the mag.
 
mcgaffey said:
Hey everyone, I just got a new M305 shorty from SFRC. I cleaned it out thoroughly and removed the cosmoline and then I took it out today to try it out and I am having some problems. I was using Hornady American Whitetail 165 grain 308 ammo. I loaded the rifle and put one in the chamber. The rifle didn't fire, the primer had not been hit. I attributed it to the round not being fully to the back of the magazine? Anyway then the round did not eject when I pulled the bolt back and I had to tilt the rifle upwards for the round to fall out. I then reloaded another round and fired 1 shot. The rifle did not eject the casing. I pulled the bolt back and had to pull the casing out of the chamber while holding the next round from jamming into the casing. I then loaded a magazine and cycled the bolt, the first round flew out but then the second again was stuck in the chamber. Am I doing something wrong or is something wrong with the rifle?

Other questions

5 round magazine is hard to take out of rifle, is this normal?

How do I remove the gas piston, it is hitting a piece of metal coming down from the barrel

The op rod does not seem to line up with the gas tube and their is a sliver where I assume gas could escape, how do I fix this?

Thanks for your helps guys
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When you go to load, pull the charging handle all the way back, let it go by itself to seat the round. Don't ride it, it needs to do the work. The flush-fit mags can be tricky to remove at times, as well as to insert. Rock the mag in and give it a nice hard upwards slap so that you hear a good clicking as it seats itself. When you charge up your mags, load the rounds in so that they are all the way back, and slap the spine of the mag against your palm.

Remove the gas piston by taking off the plug (with hex nut head) and the gas piston should fall forward and out.

The lining up of the op rod and gas cylinder sounds like normal indexing issue. Contact TacticalTeacher aka Hungry on this board and/or read the stickies.
 
Keep us posted on that progress sorting things out. Been a while since I was back in this forum since I had an intense CQB clinic in Petawawa 7-8 June and a sniper match to run on 15 Jun. I can come up for air now that I successfully learned how to cut and paste stats from the sniper match on Excel to Paint and the upload to Photobucket.

Sounds to me like you had learning curve hiccups after buying a new rifle that you did not attend basic training with. That's what the M14 rifle needs, a boot camp video by mr R Lee Ermey. I will contact him over at the glock website since he works for them now.

In the meantime buy lots of practice ammo and work that new rifle in. Load from the magazine to avoid tempting slam fires and you will be good to go.

Cheers, Barney.
 
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