M305 Rear sight removal problem

xmms

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I've read guides on how to remove the rear sight and I can't seem to do it. I am backing off the screw on the windage knob back out and turning the knob counter-clockwise but it doesn't come out like it's described. It just keeps on turning and I can't seem to get it out.

Am I doing something wrong?

It's a 2011 Norinco M305.
 
You can find the instruction on how to assemble the Garand sight (same thing) just reverse the process

http://www.m1-garand-rifle.com/m1-garand-assembly/assembly.php
 
Sometimes these Chinese sights simply will not come apart without damage, better to leave them be if they don't want to co-operate.

It could be that the locking washer with the "D" shaped hole inside the windage knob has rotated past the flat on the elevation pinion shaft and is jammed. Not a good situation, as the elevation pinion may have to be driven out, which will destroy the threads in the process.

This washer is a sloppy fit on the pinion shaft which sometimes can allow it to turn on the shaft and engage the threads. How badly do you want to remove the sight? If you are just doing it for maintenance, I would suggest just screwing it back together and use it as is. If you must have it off, keep unscrewing the windage knob screw until it pops out. This may take some force, as the retaining ring has to be pulled out of it's groove. Once it is out, drive the elevation pinion out of the windage knob, which will flatten the threads making it unusable.

Perhaps someone else here has found a way to get the washer realigned with the flat on the pinion shaft once it has spun, but I could not. It might be possible to hold the elevation knob and turn the washer with a pick or a fabricated tool as it has a groove on the outside, but at this point I had already decided to junk my sight if it was going to be this much trouble to dismantle.

Some Norinco rear sights are just crap and will have to be replaced, as I, and many others here have discovered.
 
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I am doing this is preparation for the CASM mount. I guess it won't matter too much. Either way I can probably go and replace the rear sight with a NM if it does get damaged. Thank you very much for the information!
 
Raindog said it all for me. Save you frustration, and sometimes tape up your flat bladed screw driver and use it to pry outwards on the windage knob while unscrewing that knob. It's threads are basically screwed (soft metal, lack of heat treating of the pinion threads) and are headed for the scrap metal pile/recyclers.

I've encountered a few of these and :eek: sometimes they actually work well! :D All depends on which day your rear sights were heat treated at the chinese high school shop class! :evil:

Xmmms... Good move! INstall the CASM mount from M14.ca and let us know how all of it goes with a range report! :D

Cheers,
Barney
 
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