Jeep, the word. When people are asked how the Car ¼ Ton 4X4 came to be called a "jeep", generally you will get a couple versions like Jeep is a variation of GP as in General Purpose or the car was given the name "jeep" from the magical able-to-do-anything creature from Popeye comics called "jeep". Fact is nobody really knows for 100% sure what or where the name came from but if you restore a "jeep" it stands for Just Empty Every Pocket.
M38 Jeep Restoration
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Jeep, the word. When people are asked how the Car ¼ Ton 4X4 came to be called a "jeep", generally you will get a couple versions like Jeep is a variation of GP as in General Purpose or the car was given the name "jeep" from the magical able-to-do-anything creature from Popeye comics called "jeep". Fact is nobody really knows for 100% sure what or where the name came from but if you restore a "jeep" it stands for Just Empty Every Pocket.
AS for value? whatever anyone is willing to pay for it. Fortunately in my case, it cost me very little to get in and I do get offers all the time for more than I have into it. But of course that does not include my time. I dont know what it would sell for, but you will have to ask my next of kin in 40-50 years, they will be able to tell you then.
What a nice job on reviving this next jeep from the Niagara region.
You sir seem to have a few good MVs in your garage.
ShooterMcGavin.....if need be, would you be able to work on an M37 dodge?
Always nice to have backup with these historic vehicles.
You sir seem to have a few good MVs in your garage.
ShooterMcGavin.....if need be, would you be able to work on an M37 dodge?
Always nice to have backup with these historic vehicles.
Hi,
You are pretty right on at value, I figure its a 15 k jeep but insurance wise its probably 25. Although Id like to say its worth more, but personally I dont know about buying a frame off resto, without lots of photos, and documentation of parts and knowing the skills of hte workers. In my case, I am not a mechanic but my friend helping me and doing the 'skilled work' is a mechanic and was a REME in the cdn army for 30 years at the time these jeeps were in service , so you better believe I had the best help.
At our club we have 6 M37's in various configurations and years. Non of them have been frame off resto'd but lots of wiring done, rebuilt axles, tranny jobs and of course brakes and fuel lines. We are always looking for parts trucks and jeeps. We store most of the stuff in Niagara on the Lake at a old barn where we have a machine shop and all tools we need, the owner of hte barn has x 2 WW2 jeeps and a 6 x 6 DAFT and is a founding member of the club so that helps.
If anyone is in the area PM me and ill show you around or if you know of any dialects this is just an example of what we do with some dedicated members, most being ex armed forces. You dont need to have a vehicle to join,
You are pretty right on at value, I figure its a 15 k jeep but insurance wise its probably 25. Although Id like to say its worth more, but personally I dont know about buying a frame off resto, without lots of photos, and documentation of parts and knowing the skills of hte workers. In my case, I am not a mechanic but my friend helping me and doing the 'skilled work' is a mechanic and was a REME in the cdn army for 30 years at the time these jeeps were in service , so you better believe I had the best help.
At our club we have 6 M37's in various configurations and years. Non of them have been frame off resto'd but lots of wiring done, rebuilt axles, tranny jobs and of course brakes and fuel lines. We are always looking for parts trucks and jeeps. We store most of the stuff in Niagara on the Lake at a old barn where we have a machine shop and all tools we need, the owner of hte barn has x 2 WW2 jeeps and a 6 x 6 DAFT and is a founding member of the club so that helps.
If anyone is in the area PM me and ill show you around or if you know of any dialects this is just an example of what we do with some dedicated members, most being ex armed forces. You dont need to have a vehicle to join,
There used to be a father / son team around Barrie that was restoring military Jeeps . I have no idea what their names were , but they lived in Minnising area . They were German or Polish kinda people .
I seem to remember them saying they were getting parts etc from Base Borden .
I seem to remember them saying they were getting parts etc from Base Borden .
Selling mine. Pretty much perfect or excellent cond.
Just needs troop seats and I have the brackets. Could use new wood, that's about it.
Got 2 new extra tires as well
But your not going to like the price!!! Lol
See pic in previous posts.
PM me if you want to discuss.
Cheers
As I'm sure has been seen using a repro tub produces many frustrating head-scratching moments. Mounting the spare tire bracket was no exception. The outside of the tailgate is un-drilled while the inside has the square stamped for the bolt. Going straight through didn't line up with the hole. If I drilled through the carrier bracket I bottomed out on the wall of the carrier itself. The solution was the angle seen below.
To make the spacers for mounting the spare tire bracket I had to notch the end to allow it to fit under the lip of the tailgate.
Stencils
I ordered up masking stencils from Delta Team Decals. Positive ordering experience, highly recommended. The snag in my process was poor paint adhesion between my stencil paint and my body paint. I prepped with wax and grease remover and used automotive paint but while it really wanted to stick to the masking and peel off with it, it didn't like sticking to the paint. That lead to hours of gently removing the masking with a razor and tweezers and some rough edges. However, it hasn't come off yet after some long drives at highway speed so maybe it adhered better after curing completely.
BUT here are a few pictures that make the whole thing look like a piece of cake!
Clean and apply masking
Peel off top transfer tape:
Mask everything else:
Paint, spend the hours gently removing the masking and forget to take any pictures, and when you're done.....
Finally, here is a picture of the quick rough wheel alignment method that I used. Rough, yes, but it got it within 1/8".
To make the spacers for mounting the spare tire bracket I had to notch the end to allow it to fit under the lip of the tailgate.
Stencils
I ordered up masking stencils from Delta Team Decals. Positive ordering experience, highly recommended. The snag in my process was poor paint adhesion between my stencil paint and my body paint. I prepped with wax and grease remover and used automotive paint but while it really wanted to stick to the masking and peel off with it, it didn't like sticking to the paint. That lead to hours of gently removing the masking with a razor and tweezers and some rough edges. However, it hasn't come off yet after some long drives at highway speed so maybe it adhered better after curing completely.
BUT here are a few pictures that make the whole thing look like a piece of cake!
Clean and apply masking
Peel off top transfer tape:
Mask everything else:
Paint, spend the hours gently removing the masking and forget to take any pictures, and when you're done.....
Finally, here is a picture of the quick rough wheel alignment method that I used. Rough, yes, but it got it within 1/8".
All of the years of hard work came together in the convoy jeep run. Two M38s, the groom and his best man on the road.
Gassing up before hitting the road
Break stop
Impromptu break stop that gave a pretty cool photo op.
Arrived and cooling off in the shade.
The morning of the wedding is a great time to take a run with the guys to the local lookout!
And of course a stop at the local Legion.
Gassing up before hitting the road
Break stop
Impromptu break stop that gave a pretty cool photo op.
Arrived and cooling off in the shade.
The morning of the wedding is a great time to take a run with the guys to the local lookout!
And of course a stop at the local Legion.
Great to see it all finished and your having fun with it..Finally enjoying the fruits of your labour..Can't beat those sunny days out in the jeep. Hopefully you can also get together with the Legion for Remembrance parades and the like. The amount of thumbs up you get from people is nice. You finally get to see how many people appreciate history. Attached a pic of mine at a gathering late last year...Roll on summer...(Also picked up a 37mm anti tank gun which tows nicely behind the jeep)
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Super work done on those M-38 CDNs. For the rear licence plate I took a piece of piano hinge the length of the plate drilled a couple holes in the rear frame cross member and mounted it there then when its time to show or pic take you just push it up and out of sight (make sure you install so it clears the spring shackle). A new and reflective plate really "pops" and stands out in a picture and ruins the look (screams I should not be here). Tommy, nice little 37mm, if you happen to stumble over a Pak 35/36 keep me in mind.
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Tommy, you're absolutely right. There's nothing like it. I was able to have it out for its first Remembrance Day parade during the combined parade for a couple of local regiments. It really brought the over 4 years of work together.
That 37mm is one heck of an add-on! Live or not, who cares, that thing is so cool! I'd love to see some more pics.
Good idea for the license plate hinge. At this point I've got mine on with zip ties. Easy to take off and put on!
That 37mm is one heck of an add-on! Live or not, who cares, that thing is so cool! I'd love to see some more pics.
Good idea for the license plate hinge. At this point I've got mine on with zip ties. Easy to take off and put on!
That 37mm is one heck of an add-on! Live or not, who cares, that thing is so cool! I'd love to see some more pics.
Good idea for the license plate hinge. At this point I've got mine on with zip ties. Easy to take off and put on![/QUOTE]
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^Hidden away. At the front.................well lets just say the plate is stowed somewhere in the jeep should that become an issue. I even did the same hinge mounting for the M100 trailer so when displayed the current plates vanish from sight
Good idea for the license plate hinge. At this point I've got mine on with zip ties. Easy to take off and put on![/QUOTE]
^ down and displayed
^Hidden away. At the front.................well lets just say the plate is stowed somewhere in the jeep should that become an issue. I even did the same hinge mounting for the M100 trailer so when displayed the current plates vanish from sight
Take off the floor plate in the cab and slide the plate and boot off the shift leaver after removing the ball.
Remove the bolts holding the top plate on the tranny, then remove it and the shifter, it will come out with the shift forks attached, then you can see where the forks were jammed and put it together in the proper places.This problem was common on the Spicer Transmissions and is an easy fix. Don't be too rammy when shifting (you can feel when the gears are about to mesh) and then let it slide in, this should not happen again. The high/low range and 4 wheel levers probably need shims installed (can use brass sheet or cut some out of a tin can) to tighten them up.
Remove the bolts holding the top plate on the tranny, then remove it and the shifter, it will come out with the shift forks attached, then you can see where the forks were jammed and put it together in the proper places.This problem was common on the Spicer Transmissions and is an easy fix. Don't be too rammy when shifting (you can feel when the gears are about to mesh) and then let it slide in, this should not happen again. The high/low range and 4 wheel levers probably need shims installed (can use brass sheet or cut some out of a tin can) to tighten them up.
Crap, should have noted that there was more than one page, I am sure you know all the ins and outs about that tranny by now. Have had a 48 Willys for the last 40 years and will never part with it, passed down to me by my Grandfather and in my will to my son. Great job on your jeep.
