M44/M38 Muzzle Blast and recoil - WOW

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I have a couple of these sweet little carbines and would like to do more shooting with them. I had an M44 out at the range on the weekend and was shooting some milsurp ammo. I couldn't believe how loud the rifle was and I was wearing foam ear plugs and my ears were covered with ear defenders. My Son and his Girlfriend waited in the truck with their ear defenders on due to the noise. The muzzle flash was incredible,

I was shooting white tipped Russian ammo from the 70's. I believe the bullets weighted about 148 grains. I shoot the same milsurp load out of my 91/30's and it is nice to shoot. Both guns are very accurate with this load.

I was wondering if this ammo is made for the longer barrel of the 91/30 or SVT. Has anybody experimented with different loads (powders) and found one powder/bullet combination that is a little more efficient in the M44/38? When I say efficient I mean less muzzle blast and recoil, etc. with accuracy. I know I can shoot reduced loads but it would be nice to get a good accurate hunting load for them.

Thanks
 
The 148 gr ammo was used in both the carbine and the 91/30, and if you want to use the increments on your site ladder you need to stick to these weight of rounds. For hunting, I prefer the 205gr soft points, more recoil, flame, and dropping power. For open site shooting up to a hundred yards or so, there is no resighting needed.
 
I have tried several different ammo types in my m44. 148-185 grain surplus and 205 grain hunting rounds. They all seemed the same to me. I had to put a recoil pad on it to so I could shoot it more often. I wish everyone would try one at least once. I can't imagine a bolt action firearm with more personality. The noise and blast draw a lot of attention at the range :)
 
Nice rifles! I had a M38 Russian for over 20yrs, and all she ate was S&B 185gr SP, and she never failed me once. The bore went black on me a few winters ago and she was beyond salvaging. :( What I wouldn't give to have one like her.
 
I love my M44

She is a beast of a rifle.

I too have also noticed that the lightest 147 gr projectiles are the most accurate with the sight ladder when you push back past 100 meters.

I never get very good results with groupings using anything heavier than the 147 gr surplus.
 
Chuckbuster said:
I have used the white tipped surplus and have found it to be as expected in terms of milsurp ammo...nothing out pf the ordinary. However, the real surprise came from some Czech(?) stuff that was overall an orangey colour, and which produced a small thermonuclear fireball out of my M44.
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Lol, I have a couple M44's, and they light up the area if you shoot at low light.
 
I love the flash. I just put a slip on padded 1" slip on butt pad on it. Not as much bruising. The shockwave makes most people stop what the are shooting. Lol
 
I was checking thru my loading books and looking for a load for 130 grain jacket for the 7.62x54r with fast burning powder but can't find anything. Can anyone reference me to some data? Reloader 7, SR 4759 or IMR 4227 would be great. Only using the 130's as I picked them up at a show to punch paper.

Loaded up some cast and will take them to the range today.
 
Finally will be getting my M44 out to the range today and will be using the same reloads I use in the 91/30. Would like to work up an M44 specific round for sure,something using a quicker burning powder than H4895 which has worked awesome in my 91/30.

Also wondering does anyone know for certain if the shorter carbine has a different twist rate compared to the full size Mosins?Would like to prove someone wrong or possibly right but mostly would love to prove them wrong ;)
 
I love my '44 Tula! These kick ass carbines are getting harder to find, I got mine from Tradex a few years back in "as new" condition.....
 
The carbines would have been really handy for the door to door fighting in Stalingrad and Leningrad. You could stick the muzzle in the doorway and blindly shoot, it would be like a flash bang on steroids.
 
5440fight said:
I always use a slip on with my m44's or no5 mk1's. There is no point in shooting being painfull.
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Does anyone know the recoil weight of the 7.62X54mm? I heard somewhere that the MkVII .303 ball ammo produces something like 40lbs of realized recoil force to the shooter of an Enfield. For this reason I don't own (have shot, but don't own) a No5 Mk1. I've been contemplating an M44, but all bets are off if its a shoulder crusher.

I do shoot .303 from a No1Mk3 and a No4Mk2 comfortably.
 
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