And therein lies the problem. Even before Rock banned .32 cal. pistols in C-68, that old hag Campbell had already banned by name and had confiscated (without compensation) any Skorpion pistols in private hands in Bill C-17 back in '92. So there is not even one single Skorpion pistol in private hands in this country to set a precedent for availability.
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And therein lies the problem. Even before Rock banned .32 cal. pistols in C-68, that old hag Campbell had already banned by name and had confiscated (without compensation) any Skorpion pistols in private hands in Bill C-17 back in '92. So there is not even one single Skorpion pistol in private hands in this country to set a precedent for availability.
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Unless of course the owner kept it under his 12(x) licence.
The intent was to ban the then newly made Armitage International Scarab Skorpion 9MM and the Intratec TEC-22. The accompanying literature at the time clearly used those models in the photo. Both were junk, and not related at all to the real McCoy mechanically, but both were in Gun Digest.
No, I don't think you understand. C-17 created two grandfathered classes - 12(3) converted autos, and 12(4) which was a small list of roughly 5 or 6 named firearm designs. C-17 also named several other designs under Prohibited Weapons Order #11, which were NOT grandfathered, and were CONFISCATED without compensation. The Skorpion pistol was named in that list (even if, as Deckard says, the intent was originally to ban a knock-off of the Skorpion pistol), along with guns like the SPAS-12, Calico, TEC-9, and FAMAS.
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True, but remember how they seem to love banning guns as "variants" simply by having the same look, despite the gun's inner workings. And the rather open description they used, "The firearm of the design commonly known as the Skorpion Auto Pistol, and any variant or modified version of it", would cover the original Skorpion pistols, just by virtue of the gun's name. Just because the intent of the law was to ban one particular model doesn't mean they wouldn't take advantage to ban anything else they could get away with. Look at it this way - if the ban didn't include them, we'd have the .380 Skorpion pistols, and not just the commercial copies on the market by now.
And I recognise the Intratec TEC-22 name quite well. My dad had one of them taken from him in that round of prohibitions, so it's still a sore spot to both me and him, even if the gun was rather "junky".
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I to was wondering about this too. There is another sit sponsor that has them "in stock" for 759. So after seeing that, I'm getting a little inpatient.have mine fully paid on pre order, was wondering if you can provide a bit of a timeline update on the scorpions Tactical imports. thank you for the great deal
if you are referring to the vz 61 skorpions, I saw those too but they are a different company. I am excited for this zastava copy. in all fairness the original post said august, just wanted to know if the guns have arrived in country or a timeline reflecting that type of info.
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damn, you just reminded me of a Calico 22 and Tec9 that I ordered, they arrived the day of the C17 announcement. Sadly but luckily I didn't get to pick them up but would have like to at least hold them. I bought a Valmet M78 in 223 for $850 instead which I still have (iirc, originally was 12.5 but then received a letter saying it was reclassified to non-restricted). Sorry I tend to digress.
damn, you just reminded me of a Calico 22 and Tec9 that I ordered, they arrived the day of the C17 announcement. Sadly but luckily I didn't get to pick them up but would have like to at least hold them. I bought a Valmet M78 in 223 for $850 instead which I still have (iirc, originally was 12.5 but then received a letter saying it was reclassified to non-restricted). Sorry I tend to digress.
Not a copy, licensed reproduction. CZ sold the tooling to Zastava
We have been assured by the manufacturer that we will be on-schedule for delivery in August
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You do realize that the law existed, then the guns went to the lab, and then they approved the guns given the current law right? If they were going to ban it, it would have been when it was brought forward for approval.
Yes, and they approved the rifles because they existed long before the pistol version ever came along. I am not arguing that the rifles are legal, and I've never stated anything to the contrary. The parent design cannot be a variant of the child, because the parent came along first. The pistol is a variant of the rifle, not the other way around. Because of this, they had no other choice than to let the rifles in, but the law clearly states the pistols are prohibited by name!
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Delivery ETA is August. Minimum 25% deposit required (25% down - balance is charged when arrive here). Made by Zastava, from Kragujevac, Serbia. Serbia used to be in the former Yugoslavia before the breakup of the country. I'm assuming these were made before that time. Any other questions, feel free to contact Tactical Imports. We paid $999 for these in 2012, should be a no-brainer as this is the deal of a century on a proven firearm.
Pictures from 2012 when I bought mine (lots of grease on them, they were perfect):
Awesome pics. Hopefully the new ones come with the same issue holster and pouches.
Zastava made the 32acp and there is a 380acp version made by another manufacturer. Those are the only calibers that will be available in Canada, that I know of. I like the Tokarev cartridge, but I'm certain that would be too hot for a blowback system like this.
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