M91 Russian with Canadian Broadarrow

I can take picks but I have not take the time to figure out how to post them.....


There are two stamps...one on the butt stock and one on the forestock..it is a miss match,hex reciever AND the barrel is ......well......there, nice on the outside,and YECH on the inside...over all....60%ish happy condition,metal and wood solid

I was going to butcher it,but if the gun itself has historcal value,I would sooner trade it....for my "bubba vision"
 
At one time, an outfit in Edmonton used to stamp all sorts of unlikely guns with the C-broadarrow as they had a set of factory stamps.

I always look at this stuff suspiciously if there is no obvious provenance.
 
Canadian troops in Siberia were armed with SMLEs, unlike their US counterparts who did carry MNs. They didn't actually leave Vladivostok or see combat though, and I don't believe captured arms were ever marked in that manner anyways.

That said if its an MN 1891 its still got more collectors value than a 91/30, and unFinned examples are particularly uncommon in this country.
 
I have seen a Vladivostok bring back 1891 and it carried no marks other than the name of the officer that brought it back carved into the butt.
 
Little foggy here :D, but it seems to me, with the fall of the tsarist government, there were a bunch of orphaned m 91s made in the US, that were issued for training purposes to Canadian and American troops. Feel free to contradict me. :D

Grizz
 
Little foggy here :D, but it seems to me, with the fall of the tsarist government, there were a bunch of orphaned m 91s made in the US, that were issued for training purposes to Canadian and American troops. Feel free to contradict me. :D

Grizz

The Americans used the Mosin Nagant for training purposes. Canada still had lots of 1905 Ross Rifles available, and even sold 20,000 of them to the United States for training.

The Mosin Nagants in the States were property of the British, who had paid for them and they were supposed to be shipped to Czarist Russia. When the 1917 Revolution occurred, the British cancelled the shipping so the rifles were still in the States when the Americans entered the War.

There were not that many Springfields available, and there are pictures of some of the early American troops to arrive in England still armed with the 30-40 Krag-Jorgensen rifles.
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This just doesn't ring with authenticity. Troops would have deployed with standard small arms, mainly the MkIII Lee-Enfield rifle. It is not inconceivable that Pte Snuffy might have picked up a Mosin from what was available there, but I don't see the C/broad arrow mark being applied to it. This property mark was applied at arsenal/depot levels, not within units. Most likely somebody tried his hand with a stamp over the intervening decades.
 
Well, here's the pics.
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I don't see a C Broad Arrow but maybe I'm not looking hard enough, or it's in the two pictures that are not showing.

The OE WG and AZF marks means it was captured and re-issued by Austria in WW1. The rifle as it is now was reworked by the Finns in 1940 with a Tikka barrel, which is what the marking above the date and serial number is. So it would have been sold to Finland in the 1920s or 1930s, when they bought up pretty much any Mosin that could be found. There is no way this would have a legitimate C Broad Arrow on it, and it's unfortunate if it does, since that lowers the value of an otherwise historically interesting rifle.
 
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