Maccabee Defense SLR information and updates
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r34skyline
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I think he is suggesting we shouldn't overlook mac def because they are a small outfit. And that a big outfit like nea/bcl can make utter garbo.
Anyone doing a carbon wrapped barrel like the BSF on their SLR?
The BSF has caught my eye for sure with the way the carbon acts like a spacer to keep the barrel under tension and straight as it heats up.
I`d be wanting a barrel with rifle length gas (to reduce recoil), most likely in 223 Wylde so the skinny carbon wrapped barrel should make it as light as possible and make it balance nice (I became conscious of this as I have an SL8 with a 20" bull barrel and its quite nose heavy)
The BSF has caught my eye for sure with the way the carbon acts like a spacer to keep the barrel under tension and straight as it heats up.
I`d be wanting a barrel with rifle length gas (to reduce recoil), most likely in 223 Wylde so the skinny carbon wrapped barrel should make it as light as possible and make it balance nice (I became conscious of this as I have an SL8 with a 20" bull barrel and its quite nose heavy)
Pretty much any AR type rifle will weigh less and balance better than an SLR..
I would stick with a quality, stress-relieved light or gov't profile barrel from a good manufacturer, unless the cost of a carbon barrel isn't a deterrent to you and you are sold on their performance. Check out the What Would Stoner Do series on Youtube, they are running a pencil profile Faxon and with modern stress relieving and manufacturing, you get a very accurate barrel where groups only open up slightly as it gets warm but POI remains the same. Older pencil profiles would have POI shift as the barrel got warm. Or you could go with something between a pencil profile and a medium weight, and end up with even less accuracy degradation for not much more weight.
There's also some debate on whether the manufacturing complexity and cost of the carbon's are worth it when the accuracy results have been mixed. But I'll leave that up to you to decide because not all carbon barrels are equal.
Using a typical adjustable lightweight buttstock, if your barrel, handguard, gas block and muzzle brake are under 3 lbs or so combined, the gun will feel well balanced. And if it's a bit heavier, you could always balance the gun with a heavier stock like a Magpul PRS or A2 Fixed.
I ordered a BSF Barrel from RDSC in 6.5 Grendel for my SLR, comes in at 33oz (a hair over 2lbs) for the 20" barrel, and I'm using a Lancer carbon fiber hand guard to keep with the theme. Faxon makes some light barrels in 20" as well, their 223 Wylde 20" Match fluted barrel is 32oz. Lilja also makes some in the 2.5 lb range, but they start getting pretty expensive.
They're hilariously expensive, like 800 bucks.
Not ####ting on your decision - it's a great barrel according to Fitty % on Youtube but you could have went with the Faxon Heavy Fluted in 6.5 Grendel and it would have cost you something like 335 USD, a good half of the price compared to the BSF and actually a touch lighter at 1.98 lbs.
The BSF probably outshoots the Faxon though.
The difference is not quite that bad. Originally I was going to get the Faxon, they're about $500 CAD shipped. BSF was $700 from RDSC, for $200 more I figured I would take a chance. FWIW, The non fluted Lilja AR740 was my next choice but it was about 2.5 lbs and was $865 CAD. I changed my mind on the Faxon after watching some of Johnny's reloading bench's videos and him doing load development for his 20" Faxon. He was hitting 1.5 MOA with hand loads in the 20" Faxon (although considerably better with a suppresor
) My goal is for MOA or better at 100 yards with hand loads, while keeping the rifle at 7lbs with an optic...we will see - Location
- Red Deer, Alberta
After handling both a Faxon 20” & a BSF 20” in 6.5 Grendel I ordered the 20” Faxon. The BSF barrels are supposed to shoot better than the Faxon’s from what I have read online. There were two things about the BSF I don’t like. The holes in the Carbon fiber will catch on brush where I hunt and the 0.936 gas block diameter. That size of gas block will make it hard to fit my preferred SLR rifleworks adjustable gas block under most handguards.
If I end up between 1 & 1.5 MOA out to 300 yards with the Faxon barrel that will be good enough for the hunting I do.
If I end up between 1 & 1.5 MOA out to 300 yards with the Faxon barrel that will be good enough for the hunting I do.
I believe the GB dimensions are for the journal on the barrel itself which means the gas block ID is also the same. A .936" GB is a weird size.
Don't think you can change that on a CF barrel unless the barrel is smaller past the GB saddle. You're going to have to buy whatever GB you can find that size and hope you can find a nice forend it will fit under. There must be some available, maybe buy one from CA to save yourself some trouble.
Good luck.
Any updates from Maccabee on delivery date? 2019? 2020?
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- Corner Brook, NL
ETA Please!
As it stands mid July.
I heard we were sharing builds...
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