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No were did I mention design or developmental cost. I get it, your a fan boy, that great, not every body is. If you want to drop your money who am I to say no. Just don't be a jack--- about it.
 
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I've been defending their pricing because I've been involved in new product development and I know for a fact that it isn't easy or cheap. I have a patent in my name from one project and I still haven't succeeded commercially. That said, am I going to buy one right off the bat? No. Because I don't have an extra $1000 lying around due to being the sole income earner for a growing family. Such is life. I'm not going to complain about price because I can't justify it in my own budget. My budget isn't the manufacturer's problem. All the guns I own have a total cost of $1000 or less, not including optics. That includes my one AR15. I just have to stop buying cheaper guns for a year or two and then I can afford to put together a $2000 gun. I simply don't have the patience haha!
 
Honestly I’m just going to spend what I spend to build a solid, accurate rifle that I can use for varminting and whatever else (within reason$$). I’m shooting to come in at that sub $2500 mark. At that I’ll know I have a quality and (hopefully) accurate gun lol. At $2500 it will be well used. I can use lots of the parts I have laying around, and change the configuration as I need to throughout the years as I enjoy it.

It’s honestly just the convenience and availability of spare parts that make this so attractive.

Buy once cry once IMHO.
 
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Brian46 said:
I have a bushmaster ACR in 30 RAR. It is a custom made bolt that was proof tested. There was actually 3 bolts made for my rifle, some didn't make it through the testing. it was also made in a way that I can use the same bolt and magazines with my 450 bushmaster barrel

The only rifle that was readily available in 30 RAR was the Remington R15. It used a modified AR10 bolt carrier, different barrel extension and proprietary magazines.

The parent case to 30 RAR is the 284 win, 450 Bushmaster shares that same parent but is a lower pressure cartridge.

Remington was worried that someone may try and use a 450 bolt with the 30 RAR cartridge but the factory 450 bolt is not strong enough so they decided to make the cartridge rim slightly larger on the 30 RAR so it would not function on a 450 factory bolt.

I highly suggest talking to Heron Arms, he has the tooling and knowledge after making mine. I know of nobody else in Canada that has done it or will do it.

When the ACR was first announced, 30 RAR and 450 Bushmaster were among the calibers they said were coming, hopefully they still are in the works.

Ammo is readily available in Canada and Remington has no plans to stop producing it.
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Thanks Brian, it was your posts that got me interested in the cartridge. I suppose now I need to find out how much work all this would take to function on these recievers and how much it costs.

Or do I just keep my life simple and go for a 300 BLK or a 5.56. It's not like I don't haveother rifles for big game hunting. :)
 
Gatehouse said:
Thanks Brian, it was your posts that got me interested in the cartridge. I suppose now I need to find out how much work all this would take to function on these recievers and how much it costs.

Or do I just keep my life simple and go for a 300 BLK or a 5.56. It's not like I don't haveother rifles for big game hunting. :)
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300blk is like 7.62x39 performance wise. The benefit of 7.62x39 is it uses the same bolt as 50 beowulf.

I have other rifles for big game hunting as well, but for some reason I feel the need to be different
 
We think for what they've achieved and the effort of building them, the price is commensurate. Kudos.

To think we were wondering if Canada wanted new 18.75" AR15 barrels!
 
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mmattockx said:
Since you know exactly how much a clean sheet design NR upper/lower should sell for why don't you design/develop/test your own, sell them for way less and make everyone else look stupid?

Never stated design or developmental knowledge. Instead of being a jack---, you should listen and learn. Your as open minded and tolerant as a liberal. I get it, your a fan boy, drop your coin see if I care.
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ARMS EAST said:
We think for what they've achieved and the effort of building them, the price is commensurate. Kudos.

To think we were wondering if Canada wanted new 18.75" AR15 barrels!
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all it needs to be is not under 47 cm, meaning it needs to be minimum 18.504 inches, why add another .25 inch?
 
JADD said:
How does it skirt the AR restricted status? Beside proprietary receiver.
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Because it isn't an AR, it simply uses AR ancillary components.


misanthropist said:
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Thanks for that quote, now I know he was talking to me.


JADD said:
No were did I mention design or developmental cost. I get it, your a fan boy, that great, not every body is. If you want to drop your money who am I to say no. Just don't be a jack--- about it.
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You say the cost of the upper/lower is unreasonable and I pointed out that it isn't simple machining costs because there are design/development/FRT approval costs also buried in the price. I'm no fan boy, I know nothing of the product and will likely not spend my own money on one because it is too pricey for my cheap self. I simply hate it when people dump all over a company pricing something to make a profit as 'gouging'. You can complain about the price as too high for your budget or personal valuation of an NR receiver set and that's reasonable, but to crap all over them for gouging without knowing the costs involved is not reasonable.


Mark
 
mikethebike said:
it doesn't fit on an ar upper or lower and fire

a pumpkin also doesn't fit on an ar upper or lower and fire, thats why pumpkins are good to go as well.
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Damn, I've been holding off on buying a few pumpkins cause I thought they could only be used at a range....life changer
 
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