MacMillan Edge vs. Brown Precision

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MacMillan Edge vs. Brown Precision

Okay, all things being equal, which of these stocks would you pick for a lightweight hunting rig and why? Price is comparable, as is the weight (unless you get into the Brown Precision Poundr and then your dropping about 6 ozs but adding about $110.00 US in cost).
 
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I wish I could give you a comparison but I have only made up the Brown stocks and have not seen that MacMillan at all. Both makes have a good reputation for construction and lay up of the glass. The last Brown I did was a Pounder that went on my sons M/70/7mag that Ralf Martini had reworked to a light 24" round/octagon barrel configuration. With scope, sling and ammo it weighs about 7 1/2. That is light enough for that caliber in my books. There is a considerable amount of work in finishing up the Brown stocks as they come straight from the mold as I have seen them. Not difficult but fussy to make them look right. Surface glazing with body filler, filling gaps, steel bedding etc., and whatever finish you prefer.

If you could see and hold rifles with both makes I think you could simply take your pick based on fit and call it good.
 
stocker said:
There is a considerable amount of work in finishing up the Brown stocks as they come straight from the mold as I have seen them. Not difficult but fussy to make them look right. Surface glazing with body filler, filling gaps, steel bedding etc., and whatever finish you prefer.

If you could see and hold rifles with both makes I think you could simply take your pick based on fit and call it good.


I was actually looking at their pre-finished option for their stocks. Seems like a reasonable expense if someone (and by someone I mean me :D ) didn't have the time nor the inclination to finish it themselves, let alone take the chance of severely screwing up a $600.00 stock :eek: .

I really wish I could compare the 2 of them side by each in finished rifles for my personal fit but that unfortunately won't be happening - unless someone in the Lwr Mainland happens to have a couple of rifles stocked in both stocks. If that's the case, can I be your new best friend??:D

How does your son like that Pounder stock? At 16 ozs, it's definately got my vote for lightweight carry. How's the balance and the rigidity?
 
Check the actual weight..... if a recoil pad has been added I don't think it will be a pound anymore...? I'm not sure.....
 
Brown stock

He dotes on that rifle and stock. It is a very comfortable stock to shoot and to hold. Nice slim grip, nothing too bulky, fairly straight comb line and the rifle is as accurate as any one could possibly need for hunting.

I'm probably going to get one for myself for my old standard weight M70/06 as I'm finding it heavier now than I used to. It has had a fancy Claro stock on it for nearly 40 years but that stock is heavy even with the butt and forend hollowed quite a bit.

I have not seen Brown's prefinished stocks. As long as you only have to bed it and not start filling gaps and voids for appearance sake it might be a good way to go.
 
A short while ago I did a write up on the McMillan Edge stock it has somehow disapeared ! In short last year I ordered the then new Edge stock for a M70 in 270 WSM. The stock is very well made and perfectly inletted, checkering is precise and sharp, the paint looks duarable and is quite rough to the touch, recoil par was a Deccelerator, studs installed and overall a very well executed package. I believe the stock weighed in at 21 oz. It is very stiff through the action and forearm with no hint of flex no matter how hard I tried to flex the forearm. The Brown stock is a nice stock but I would not like to finish a Pounder having done that twice already, they are alot of work. I have never seen a prefinished Pounder so cannot comment on the factory finished stock compared to the Edge.

For those interested in the McMillan edge here are a few pics showing the quality of build.
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Brown recoil pad

guntech said:
Check the actual weight..... if a recoil pad has been added I don't think it will be a pound anymore...? I'm not sure.....

Dennis : My son obtained a rectangular pad material with the stock that had no backing plate. A glue on type and relatively soft similar to a thick sole on a flip flop shoe but thicker and a better grade of rubber. I wasn't too sure how good it would be but it has stood up well for 3 or 4 seasons now. At any rate it was very light, probably not more than 2 oz. . I'd like to find that material in larger pieces to play with it a bit more. A little touchy to grind on a disc and you have to work from the upward turning side of the disc to keep it from grabbing and pulling down into the space between disc and table. Easy enough to finish with sanding block to the stock.

When I think about it the material also resembles the black foam that some fishing rods have for grips.
 
MacMillan stock

Bigbull;

That Edge stock is head and shoulders above the cheaper stocks in terms of exterior detail and interior finishing. I can see why you like it.

I really would like to see more detail of Ian's stocks than their web site shows. Particularly interior close ups. I am not adverse to buying Canadian made products at all but don't think I've even seen them advertised in the West although that may be in error. I know they have a sterling reputaion among competition shooters.
 
I bought a pre-finished Brown in the mid 90's and the paint and filler was very poor quality. It needed to be sanded down and repainted after one season. Since then I've had several Brown P's that I bought as blanks which you used to be able to buy for $140 from a re-seller. Now for the price they want they can keep them. Best value nowadays is the Bansner $152 from Brownells and 25 oz with pad, bedding and paint.
 
also, you will need to have both the McM or the Brown properly bedded if you want optimum accuracy and consistency.

One of the other advantages of the McM is that when you order them you specify the barrel contour and lenght of pull. Brown Precision gives you a generic model unless you send it down to them.
 
stocker said:
Bigbull;

That Edge stock is head and shoulders above the cheaper stocks in terms of exterior detail and interior finishing. I can see why you like it.

I really would like to see more detail of Ian's stocks than their web site shows. Particularly interior close ups. I am not adverse to buying Canadian made products at all but don't think I've even seen them advertised in the West although that may be in error. I know they have a sterling reputaion among competition shooters.

I wish I could buy Canadian also but I don't want to give up anything in quality. I will reserve judgment on the Robinson until I can examine one first hand. At this point I would rather pay for something I am familiar with.

There is a huge difference in the inletting of McMillans compared to other stocks in that they CNC machine the inlleting for each stock, they are not molded, this has a huge effect on the finished product and the work required to finish/bed your own stock. I have dealt with other companies like Brown Precision and MPI where the stocks were molded for a particular action and there was alot of work involved in finishing. My time is worth money and if I have to spend two days getting everything just right I am not interested ! Paying the extra $100 for a perfectly inletted stock is worth the money and will make for a more proffesional job, only a very thin skin coat of bedding compound is usually required for a perfect fit. Where the McMillan always fell behind was that they never had a truly lightweight stock, that has all changed now with the introduction of the EDGE Stock. If the Edge takes the beating of field use like their other stocks I think they will have a real winner in their hands. It doesn't mean they are the only option because stocks like Borden & Brown also make a wonderful light stock with great lines and solid build. I hope that in time I can add the Robinson to this group and avoid the hassle and need of buying stateside. Factory stocks are also coming up in quality, just look at the new Kimber Montana this stock is fantastic right out of the box, that and the quality metal that Kimber is puting together is making this a great buy in my opinion, three Montana rifles I have seen have been flawless and good shooters to boot.
bigbull
 
I have a couple of Win 70's with McMillan G&H sporter stocks on them. I really like the feel and fit of the stocks, but the finish hasn't held up that well, and I didn't find the inletting any better then the Brown. Perhaps they were still molding them then. I would look at Wildcat stocks for a Canadian sporter option, and Ian on this board makes target/tactical stocks that are first rate. - dan
 
Hi Guys,

My ears have been burning. If you guys are interested, I will ship you a stock to look at and perhaps the first guy can ship it to the second guy etc. Tell me what you want to see, super light, etc. etc and I'll see what is kicking around. Many have not really heard of us, that may be because we have never had the need to advertise but we would like to see some of our work stay Canada.

Interested? email me the specs and address office@robertsoncomposites.com

Ian
 
I was involved in bringing those Brown Precision blanks into Canada in the first place and the standard blanks were $145 dealer at that time .You will never see blanks at that price today . Use Evercoat polyester glazing putty to fill and its part of the stock for ever .
I believe there is a market for a copy of the general purpose style[McMillan pattern] stock if made by Ian's company. We should be proud of such Canadian talent in the world market and support them by buying Canadian .
Glenn
 
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