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Are these just like the regular "Norinco" M305's? Why the change in name?
Just curious.

Thanks.
 
Definition of "A Little Price Increase"

JToews said:
The price went up a little, so you get a little more. A B should about cover it.
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A little? 11% decrease in the Canadian Dollar yields a 39.6% in price jump. If gas suddenly jumped 51 cents at the pump, I don't think anyone would characterize that as the "price went up a little" (just saying, LOL!)
 
PPCLIGullyPlatoon said:
A little? 11% decrease in the Canadian Dollar yields a 39.6% in price jump. If gas suddenly jumped 51 cents at the pump, I don't think anyone would characterize that as the "price went up a little" (just saying, LOL!)
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Don't buy one then. Sooner or later the dealers who jack prices too high will take a class in economics and realize they are out of equilibrium. A lot of factors are involved in pricing for these guys. Just because something is one price one year does not mean it will remain the same for life.
 
Oh, I know - worked enough logistics in the past decade, moving "valueless" imported freight from location-to-location. Basically, overpriced freight that was undercut by competitors, who saturated the market. Storage costs money!!!

And you're right, despite the fact I would like to own one (errr, really, really REALLY want one!!!), and the rumours of future prices going far out of range, I'll wait.
 
the price had been the same for almost 10 years....this large increase is on the Chinese side, no option but to raise the retail
 
I remember when they were $399 and now they are $599.

So that is quite an increase but I also look at what else is available in that type of rifle and what it costs, $599 still looks pretty good in comparison.
 
Snapshot said:
I remember when they were $399 and now they are $599.

So that is quite an increase but I also look at what else is available in that type of rifle and what it costs, $599 still looks pretty good in comparison.
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In 10 years when they are $999.00 the $599.00 price is going to look good. Tell me something that hasn't gone up. A liter of regular gasoline went from 129.9 to 142.9 a couple of nights ago.

Its all relative.

Remember ads in the mid 80's selling un-issued FN's, Lee-Enfields, Swedish M-38's etc... between 100-300 bucks. As a poor university student those "rock bottom" prices were still out of reach (Any one else remember the "Gunrunner" newspaper and Century Arms Fliers?)

Bought a $299.00 TRW M14 (Israeli lend-lease return) which I saved up for (Didn't drink for 4 months as a result of this purchase). Then found it next to impossible to feed it a diet of surplus military ammo (I discovered a box in the back of my storage room a couple of years ago. 20 rounds of 1972 head stamped IVI on 10 round stripper clips was going for $3.95). I was making 6.00 an hour at the time.
When I now look at what I make an hour vs. some of the prices we are paying - my purchasing power has gone way up in the intervening years.

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Yeah, I think I've heard both sides of the fence, "it's the Chinese fault," "the Chinese are running out of M14 type actions," "the Canadian Dollar has lost it's value," etc, etc, etc. I know one thing for sure; when a dealer sells them at $450, they are GONE is under 24 hours, likewise, anywhere above $550, and they're sitting on the shelves.

Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of having the next best thing to an FNC1, but that's a compromise too! I have feeling, that at these prices, there's going to be quite a few available for some time.
 
Well, one thing is for certain. These are a lot cheaper than the alternative. What are Springfield worth, these days? $2100-$2400ish? I realize Springfield makes very quality stuff, mind you, but from what I've read here, even at the current price, it's cheaper to modify a Norinco.
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PPCLIGullyPlatoon said:
A little? 11% decrease in the Canadian Dollar yields a 39.6% in price jump. If gas suddenly jumped 51 cents at the pump, I don't think anyone would characterize that as the "price went up a little" (just saying, LOL!)
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POSTED this before, the factory price went up a little over $100. the Canadian dollar dropped 11%.... do the math
 
johnone said:
POSTED this before, the factory price went up a little over $100. the Canadian dollar dropped 11%.... do the math
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I really don't want to argue the point ad nauseum and I get the math; (1/0.89)(Manufacturer Price + $100.00)=$595.51, understood.

Last I looked, the Canadian Dollar dropped 11% compared to the US Dollar - I get that; but so did the Chinese Yuan compared to the US Dollar --- trading value between Canada and the PRC has not changed that dramatically over the past year.

I am not one to tell someone how to run a business, but, as an importer, I know the typical importation markup is quite often double the "landed cost" ----contracted FOB before the price increase? Perhaps $200, but certainly not more than $300 ---- in either event, I would be asking questions: a) Why the price increase at the factory? b) Would the price increase be supported by the customer?
 
True enough - it's still a reasonable deal when comparing an M14 to the M305. The compromise for me is, to have an M305 work like an M14, I am likely going to have to sink in a few bucks - perhaps twice as much, and I am okay with $900 battle rifle that is similar to an M14. Now, it's approaching $1200-$1400 --- it's not near as far a stretch to $2000 for a Springer, not that I am saying I would pay that; it just makes the M305 less of a bargain.
 
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