I was reading on the Wolverine Blog Site that bolt action center fire rifles have no restriction on mag size. Did I read and understand this correctly ? If so.. does that mean I could have a "sheet metal worker" build me a 25 round mag for my old 303 Jungle carbine? Wouldnt that be interesting to see...and just DO IT because a person could.
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There seems to be a lot of discussion regarding this.
It is generally accepted that a Lee-Enfield can have a 10-round magazine...... but there also were 15-rounders made for them and even some 20s, back in World War One. The Gew.98/Kar.98aZ rifles had 15- and 25-round EXTENSION magazines built and those seem to be legal also, even though originals are shockingly-rare.
I HAVE seen a Bren Gun magazine adapted to a Jungle Carbine. The modification was permanent and the Mag would no longer function on a Bren, so I have NO idea what this might have done to the legal classification of the Magazine itself. I have also seen a Ruger M-77 adapted to handle M-14 Magazines and this seems to be even "iffier" if that is a word.
I think the Government is afraid of everybody building Charltons or something. I have only ever played with one Charlton and it used a Bren Magazine, but I have seen photos of other Charltons (there are about half a dozen still in existence) and at least one of them is fitted with a 10-round LE Magazine.
So I no longer have ANY idea at all about what is "legal" and what is not.
And that is PRECISELY the way the Bureaucracy wants us to be: utterly powerless in the face of Their Incredible Majesty and Sublime Power.
We should fire them all, trash C-68 and get some COMMON SENSE into the system for the first time in 40 years.
Likely this does not help much.
Sorry.
"Let the games begin!" (Nero Claudius Caesar Augustus Germanicus)
It is generally accepted that a Lee-Enfield can have a 10-round magazine...... but there also were 15-rounders made for them and even some 20s, back in World War One. The Gew.98/Kar.98aZ rifles had 15- and 25-round EXTENSION magazines built and those seem to be legal also, even though originals are shockingly-rare.
I HAVE seen a Bren Gun magazine adapted to a Jungle Carbine. The modification was permanent and the Mag would no longer function on a Bren, so I have NO idea what this might have done to the legal classification of the Magazine itself. I have also seen a Ruger M-77 adapted to handle M-14 Magazines and this seems to be even "iffier" if that is a word.
I think the Government is afraid of everybody building Charltons or something. I have only ever played with one Charlton and it used a Bren Magazine, but I have seen photos of other Charltons (there are about half a dozen still in existence) and at least one of them is fitted with a 10-round LE Magazine.
So I no longer have ANY idea at all about what is "legal" and what is not.
And that is PRECISELY the way the Bureaucracy wants us to be: utterly powerless in the face of Their Incredible Majesty and Sublime Power.
We should fire them all, trash C-68 and get some COMMON SENSE into the system for the first time in 40 years.
Likely this does not help much.
Sorry.
"Let the games begin!" (Nero Claudius Caesar Augustus Germanicus)
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No restriction on commercial bolt action magazines (or pumps or levers, for that matter).
However I do not know if that applies to building one on your own.
However I do not know if that applies to building one on your own.
Magazine restrictions and limits are all based on what the magazine was originally intended for. A bren gun mag converted to a bolt action gun, must be limited to 5 rounds. As it was intended for a auto/semi. You cant ever change was it is, a bren gun mag.
If you built a mag from scratch, and its intended use is for a lee enfield, and it only fits a lee enfield, it will not require any limiting, can be as many rounds as you wish.
If you built a mag from scratch, and its intended use is for a lee enfield, and it only fits a lee enfield, it will not require any limiting, can be as many rounds as you wish.
Isn't this why the M14 crowd jumps all over the certain model of Enfield magazine that functions in an M14?
For any manually operated centerfire rifle, be it bolt action or lever action or pump, there are no capacity limitations.
So if you really wanted to you could get a 100 round drum mag on your Enfield.
Then, if you happened to have a different semiauto firearm that functions with that magazine, it is legal to use the two together because the magazine was designed and manufactured and intended for a manually operated firearm.
However, despite that if you make too much noise about it the RCMP will prohibit the magazine and claim it was intended to be used in a semi-auto all along.
A few guys on here managed to get their SKS to work with XCR pistol magazines for 10 rounds of 7.62x39. Legal, since the magazine was intended for a pistol.
For any manually operated centerfire rifle, be it bolt action or lever action or pump, there are no capacity limitations.
So if you really wanted to you could get a 100 round drum mag on your Enfield.
Then, if you happened to have a different semiauto firearm that functions with that magazine, it is legal to use the two together because the magazine was designed and manufactured and intended for a manually operated firearm.
However, despite that if you make too much noise about it the RCMP will prohibit the magazine and claim it was intended to be used in a semi-auto all along.
A few guys on here managed to get their SKS to work with XCR pistol magazines for 10 rounds of 7.62x39. Legal, since the magazine was intended for a pistol.
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Whle there were 20 round "Trench magazines", once youj went "over the top" they were a liability. Most were scrapped after the war, so the few in exsistence are rare collectors items
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Ordinarily a bolt action fire-arm does not have its magazine capacity regulated.
The Cartridge Magazine Control Regulations (SOR 98-462 Part 4 S.3) states in Paragraph (2)(a)(ii) that Par. (1)(a) is excepted for magazines designed for the Lee-Enfield rifle of up to 10 rounds. Thing is, Par. (1)(a) is the text that limits semi and automatic magazine capacities, which the Lee-Enfield is not. Clear as mud.
The fact that there are a few examples of the obsolete proto-type Charlton automatic conversion in museums, used sparingly by New Zealand in the War and not all fitting L-E magazines in the first place, should have nothing to do with what the mag.s were originally designed for.
The Cartridge Magazine Control Regulations (SOR 98-462 Part 4 S.3) states in Paragraph (2)(a)(ii) that Par. (1)(a) is excepted for magazines designed for the Lee-Enfield rifle of up to 10 rounds. Thing is, Par. (1)(a) is the text that limits semi and automatic magazine capacities, which the Lee-Enfield is not. Clear as mud.
The fact that there are a few examples of the obsolete proto-type Charlton automatic conversion in museums, used sparingly by New Zealand in the War and not all fitting L-E magazines in the first place, should have nothing to do with what the mag.s were originally designed for.
