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canuck4570
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great
but looking at MDT they seem on the heavy side....14 pounds oufffff to heavy for me unless the model shown was something else
not much on their site....
but looking at MDT they seem on the heavy side....14 pounds oufffff to heavy for me unless the model shown was something else
not much on their site....
sillymike
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As a comparison, the MTD stock weights in at 3.5lbs, while a Hogue stock will weight about 2.6lbs...
It depends a whole lot on the action/barrel/scope you use in it. Using a 20" barrel, the gun should weight about 12bls w/scope... my 20" HBAR w/scope is 9.3lbs
It depends a whole lot on the action/barrel/scope you use in it. Using a 20" barrel, the gun should weight about 12bls w/scope... my 20" HBAR w/scope is 9.3lbs
canuck4570
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thanks Sillymike
what I will do is to go to a few practice bring my bolt gun shoot a bit with the groups and see in person these rifles and how the feel in my hands......don't worry not to shoot them just to see if I like the balance and so on....
than I will make a decision, I think this is a good approach
what I will do is to go to a few practice bring my bolt gun shoot a bit with the groups and see in person these rifles and how the feel in my hands......don't worry not to shoot them just to see if I like the balance and so on....
than I will make a decision, I think this is a good approach
I am not trying to be an ass....but you can't jam a square pick into a round hole.
I think most people have said it - you can bring a bolt gun, but it is NOT going to work too well at all. If you want to show up with a Tikka, you will have to accept that it is going to suck for you. The proper rifle for this is an AR15 with 10 mags.
Yes, you can wear tennis shoes to go for a marathron run - but when your feet hurts at the end of the day don't blame it on the run itself !!! The problem would be that you have chosen to show up in tennis shoes.
If you shoot the ORA SR event, you will be running, kneeling, standing and switching positions in the middle of the match. You will have to change magazines in the middle of the serial - this is not a "belly" shooting event that wins by shooting groups. It is a competition of position shooting.
If you want to shoot bolt guns lying down on the grass with minimum movements, the precision event (run by ORA) is probably more matching to your interest The precision event is more of a belly shooting event.
I think most people have said it - you can bring a bolt gun, but it is NOT going to work too well at all. If you want to show up with a Tikka, you will have to accept that it is going to suck for you. The proper rifle for this is an AR15 with 10 mags.
Yes, you can wear tennis shoes to go for a marathron run - but when your feet hurts at the end of the day don't blame it on the run itself !!! The problem would be that you have chosen to show up in tennis shoes.
If you shoot the ORA SR event, you will be running, kneeling, standing and switching positions in the middle of the match. You will have to change magazines in the middle of the serial - this is not a "belly" shooting event that wins by shooting groups. It is a competition of position shooting.
If you want to shoot bolt guns lying down on the grass with minimum movements, the precision event (run by ORA) is probably more matching to your interest The precision event is more of a belly shooting event.
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canuck4570
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Greentips
if you read carefully my post #44 I said that I will go at a practice with my bolt gun and shoot a bit with the guys and see what you guys are shooting and see what kind of rifle fit me well,
this came about because specially Sillymike and others diplomatically and with patience convince me to use proper gear
we even talk about the Bennelli MR1 which is not restricted but alway said if you come with a bolt gun be ready to not be competitive this I understood
You see to bring new shooter to the sport of SR that don't know to much about it by reading old rules of SR shooting you have to guide them
from a administrator I would of like better if you would of said "hey come and shoot with us have fun I am certain you will see after a practice according the the news rules that your bolt gun is as you put so politely 'you don't put a round prick in a
square hole"
now that would be promoting the shooting sport
Greentips no hard feelings
don't worry when I will go and shoot I wont bring my square prick so you wont have to worry about your round hole
if you read carefully my post #44 I said that I will go at a practice with my bolt gun and shoot a bit with the guys and see what you guys are shooting and see what kind of rifle fit me well,
this came about because specially Sillymike and others diplomatically and with patience convince me to use proper gear
we even talk about the Bennelli MR1 which is not restricted but alway said if you come with a bolt gun be ready to not be competitive this I understood
You see to bring new shooter to the sport of SR that don't know to much about it by reading old rules of SR shooting you have to guide them
from a administrator I would of like better if you would of said "hey come and shoot with us have fun I am certain you will see after a practice according the the news rules that your bolt gun is as you put so politely 'you don't put a round prick in a
square hole"
now that would be promoting the shooting sport
Greentips no hard feelings
don't worry when I will go and shoot I wont bring my square prick so you wont have to worry about your round hole
Gunnerlove
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A ranger beat you?
By 3 vbulls, damn it.
It is the hard truth.
Shooting is like any hobby or sports - if you walk into a mountain and tell people you want to ride down the hill with a "road bike" - people are going to tell you it is not a wise thing to do.
or you can come crashing down the trail and figure out the hard way, or stand at the cliff in the last minute, and figure out it is a bad move after 8 hours of driving.
To try to sucker you into "downhill biking" by telling you it is ok to ride a "road bike" in the mountian is doing you a disservice.
We can certainly tell you "come bring your bolt gun" and 2 magainzes, and sucker you into driving 3 hours to the event. But you will definitely be bruised or leaving before lunch time - I am tired of seeing people leaving after 2 hours because they figure out their "expectation" is so far away from the "ground reality" and that they have not properly prepared. We are trying to tell you what you need. It may not be what you have, but there are some basic requirements.
The truth is that - in order to properly prepare to shoot a SR (run by the ORA), you need a semi automatic rifle, a proper one - as well as the ability to carry 50 rounds in magazine at any time. You have to have a system to carry these magazines on your body. You have to have a backpack to carry all you personal belongings and ammunition. The best thing is to study the course of fire and create a mental picture what it is like.
I highly recommend that you take one of the ORA service rifle clinic in the beginning of the season, and see what it is like.
Shooting is like any hobby or sports - if you walk into a mountain and tell people you want to ride down the hill with a "road bike" - people are going to tell you it is not a wise thing to do.
or you can come crashing down the trail and figure out the hard way, or stand at the cliff in the last minute, and figure out it is a bad move after 8 hours of driving.
To try to sucker you into "downhill biking" by telling you it is ok to ride a "road bike" in the mountian is doing you a disservice.
We can certainly tell you "come bring your bolt gun" and 2 magainzes, and sucker you into driving 3 hours to the event. But you will definitely be bruised or leaving before lunch time - I am tired of seeing people leaving after 2 hours because they figure out their "expectation" is so far away from the "ground reality" and that they have not properly prepared. We are trying to tell you what you need. It may not be what you have, but there are some basic requirements.
The truth is that - in order to properly prepare to shoot a SR (run by the ORA), you need a semi automatic rifle, a proper one - as well as the ability to carry 50 rounds in magazine at any time. You have to have a system to carry these magazines on your body. You have to have a backpack to carry all you personal belongings and ammunition. The best thing is to study the course of fire and create a mental picture what it is like.
I highly recommend that you take one of the ORA service rifle clinic in the beginning of the season, and see what it is like.
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In addition to learning the choreography of the ORA matches, it is really, really important to work on position shooting. Even if you know sequences of the ballet performed during the different stages, if you cannot get into the various positions quickly, and shoot effectively in the different positions you are wasting your time. This is certainly something you can practice without attending formal matches.
canuck4570
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I cast my own bullet ( lead ) just to shoot in winter because in that season there are not to many shooter at the range and .... don't tell anyone shoot in all 4 positions even if in Quebec its only bench which I find absurd,
why cast bullets you ask yourself, well this way I can afford to shoot all day
I see also the physical aspect of this shooting, not to brag I am on my bowflex a few times a week and not speaking of my stationary bike
yes I understand the aspect of this discipline
and before I invest all the money required for it I thought that I could start with my bolt gun and shoot with the group and at the same time see what is needed for this discipline
in hope that my thinking will not make me a outcast
I cast my own bullet ( lead ) just to shoot in winter because in that season there are not to many shooter at the range and .... don't tell anyone shoot in all 4 positions even if in Quebec its only bench which I find absurd,
why cast bullets you ask yourself, well this way I can afford to shoot all day
I see also the physical aspect of this shooting, not to brag I am on my bowflex a few times a week and not speaking of my stationary bike
yes I understand the aspect of this discipline
and before I invest all the money required for it I thought that I could start with my bolt gun and shoot with the group and at the same time see what is needed for this discipline
in hope that my thinking will not make me a outcast
Practicing position shooting - even dry firing - is invaluable. So is conditionning. Your exercise routine will pay off. Fitness counts. If you want to practice fire with movement, use your bike or a treadmill with your rifle beside the machine, do the interval, hop off and dry fire the exercise. Get back on, repeat.
canuck4570
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tiriaq
thanks for the tip
thanks for the tip
canuck4570
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GE
do you really mean 3 vbulls like this one..... how good you miss such a target
that ranger is good
