No you don't. You do the same as most, take a class, read some stuff on the internet, and preach it as gospel. You can wrap it up in your multi-word posts all you want, but you have no real-world experience to back up anything you say.
There's other things you do have experience with, but we aren't allowed to discuss illegal activities now, are we.
That is quite the assumption. I have taken several professional classes and will continue to do so. I do NOT agree with everything that is taught, nor do I pretend to be an "expert". I DO validate what I use through logic and critical thinking. If what is taught does not work for most shooters, using most makes/models, under most conditions, I hesitate to incorporate it into my manual of arms. I'll break it down further for those who want to know. My minimums for a technique are below.
The method MUST WORK 100% of the time when conducted correctly
Must be ambidextrous(lefty and righty friendly)
Must work with most makes/models(excluding revolvers, We won't talk about those in this thread)
Must work or be workable with one hand(either hand as well, see first point)
Must work in the dark
Ideally, the technique or atleast the concept should transfer between systems(handgun, shotgun, rifle)
If a method doesn't fit all these criteria then I weigh the pros and cons and decide from there. In most cases, it doesn't make the cut. Magpul's 45' degree mag slap(autoload) for handguns is a prime example of a method that doesn't meet the minimums.
A Campbell above(and below) has pointed out, one doesn't need to be sucking pooh dust in 40'c heat to experience or understand a method of clearing a stoppage. Nor does one need to ride in a patrol car all day never drawing their pistol and qualifying once maybe twice a year to understand the importance of a reliable method for loading and/or reloading.
Now just to set the record straight, I have nothing against the pros above. I wish both professions received more training and the best training without restriction as their job and their lives very much depend on it.
As for the personal attacks, well that's more your game than mine, but yes, I do speed, J-walk, roll through stop signs and sometimes litter. I can't for the life of me see how any of that validates or discredits my opinions or the facts I post to support them.
I find it interesting as I have followed TDC's posting, and everyone else's. That not only does TDC stay on topic, but he also does not call out or personally attack anyone. However, this does not seem to be the case for everyone else.
The fact is, TDC is arguing a point, essentially his point or his belief on the subject. Everyone else is arguing against him (which is fine as this is what makes a debate) and when that does not work they resort to bashing. Moreover, this type of rebutal (SP?) is ridiculous. His arguments are valid and exceptionally thorough. I have seen only a few come close to the detail and enthusiasm on this topic.
Now I will not take a stand on which action to remedy a stoppage is more reliable. As I have VERY limited experience with this. But, say I did have experience with it. Does that mean I have to be over seas to experience a stoppage? No. So again the "experience" level should be left out.
I come to this forum as a beginner in the sport, and to learn from knowledgeable individuals who have years more experience than myself. I own no firearms, but look to in the near future. And before doing so, I would like a wealth of knowledge to apply in my own way.
If I may. Lets get this back on topic, leaving the personal grudges and critics out of it. Its a debate; not a bashing.
Campbell,
Thank you(and all the others above) for pointing out the thread topic and following this and other long winded threads. You don't need me or anyone else to tell you that your ability to sift through the sh*t to get to the heart of the discussion is spot on.
I am not a fan of "magpul" but everything has something to take from it... you have to pick and choose what works for you, being dogmatic and inflexable will not work in real life, as the saying goes.... you have tothink outside the box.
what is his experience, from pm's i have recieved from other members his experience is limited to taking a few courses.... my experience is even more limited, I admit.... but I am not here talking like an "expert" either, especially when there are several people here who make thier living/serve with guns.
here is costa and haleys experience....
I fully agree with the bold above. Every school offers something to learn, whether that be a technique that works or examples of those that don't. If you didn't learn anything, you weren't trying hard enough.
TDC
