Make your own CQB type stock for your M1A/M14 *see post 14

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Now that I'm happily back to being a firearms hobbyist and have no related business interests and fortunate enough at my age to be comfortably retired, I figured I'd share a HOW TO on fabricating your own, super light, rock solid, and super affordable CQB Modstock. A stock that will accept AR15 grips and buttstock kits.
i'm going to do this in phases to allow folks to gather the items required.
This first post will detail the tools and materials required. I need to order the adaptor to start another one for picture taking purposes along the way, I just searched my shop and don't have any left of the adaptor required.

so , you will need to have the following tools/materials
-masking tape
-a small square
-hack saw or vertical band saw
-drill press with vice
-shop files
-dremel tool with coarse sanding drum
-dremel 1/8th carbide reamer bit
-bench vice
-drill bit and tap for 1/4 x 28 thread (for standard AR grip screw ) ( Fastenal)
- 1 , standard AR15 grip screw (1/4 x 28tpi, 1 inch long)
-drill bit and tap for 1/4 x 20 thread (Fastenal)
-GOOP brand Marine Epoxy putty- 1 box(Rona usually has)
-3 inch length of 3/8" x 1 1/4" aluminum flat bar
-5 pcs 1/4 x 20 x 5/8" button head allen screws (Fastenal)
-Stormwerkz AR-180 stock adaptor Type 1 , part number SA-180-01
-AR grip such as a Hogue, stag or any other A2 type AR grip without the backstrap tang.
-your preferred milspec or commercial AR15 buttstock assembly , pretty sure ALL will fit so long as they fit an AR15.
- a couple 3 ft long sections of 2" aluminum angle are also used when jigging this up.
-And of course, you will need a NORINCO/POLYTECH plastic stock to martyr for the cause ;)
** for finishing
- a mouse sander with 80 and 120 grit sanding papers
- adhesion promoter spray (lordco), a MUST for painting injection molded plastics
- krylon camo spray paints
-Rona brand Matte clear laquer

so, I'm going to go thru my materials, order a stock adaptor or two and get everything prepped, taking pics as I go.
I'll update the thread as progress is made.
I will also show how simple it is to mod the stock for a rock solid bipod stud mount that retains the m14 sling plate assembly and does not use the stocks "vent" hole.
rail mounting options and methods will also be addressed.

some are going to wonder why i'm doing this, and I suppose the simple answer is, I'm back to having fun with my rifles and making cool stuff is fun, I figured you guys might think so too ;) and in the end , you will have a solid, rugged, functional, "modular" , and most of all affordable, CQB type rifle stock for your m14 platform that you will enjoy for years of hard use.

so stay tuned, there is MUCH more to be added to this thread in the coming weeks ;)
 
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PICTURES OR I WILL NOT ACCEPT THIS POST!
:p
WoW! On a side note I guess it's official that you are no longer ever making M14 stocks again :(
I hope you enjoy your retirement.
 
"...CQB type stock..." Mareketing nonsense. So are the short barreled rifles. Those never existed. The M14/M1A/M305 is a battle rifle that was designed for European battle fields. That'd be close in or far away. But have fun.
 
sunray said:
"...CQB type stock..." Mareketing nonsense. So are the short barreled rifles. Those never existed. The M14/M1A/M305 is a battle rifle that was designed for European battle fields. That'd be close in or far away. But have fun.
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Wow Sunray , welcome to the no fun club LOL
Who cares what the rifle was "meant" for , as far as I can tell, most of ain't using the on any real battlefields ;)
I suppose this thread will need a warning... If yer a purist or a no fun kinda guy... Move along, nuthin to see here :D

The goal of the thread is to give folks who "want" an AR furniture capable M1A stock and don't want to pay the high price tag.... This project is for you.
The stock I will show you how to make is this one, featured in the following review by CGN M14 Guru, Hungry : http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...14doc)-CQB-Stock-M14-M1A-Shorty&highlight=cqb

I'm writing up and taking the pics for step 1, chopping and prepping the norinco plastic stock. Stay tuned ;)
 
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sunray has been semi-professionally spreading advice on subjects he has little to no understanding of since the dawn of my time on the Internet. He recently gave Bison hunting advice / critique to those who've done it and even corrected what he felt were errors I'm sure, in something I doubt he's been nearer than a couple thousands kms from. He's like a completely misinformed Dos Equis guy, it's very entertaining. His dedication to misinformation frankly impresses me.
 
Ardent said:
sunray has been semi-professionally spreading advice on subjects he has little to no understanding of since the dawn of my time on the Internet. He recently gave Bison hunting advice / critique to those who've done it and even corrected what he felt were errors I'm sure, in something I doubt he's been nearer than a couple thousands kms from. He's like a completely misinformed Dos Equis guy, it's very entertaining. His dedication to misinformation frankly impresses me.
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Hilarious. Spelling and grammar count in a post, but then goes on to misspell marketing.

Still, I like Sunray's online persona. Very dry, very sarcastic, and it's hard to veil that friendly sneer. *snicker*
 
okay, while I do not have the stormwerkz adaptor yet, too keep this going I've taken some pics of how you will need to do the first step in modding your Chinese plastic stock

first, wrap the wrist of the stock where you will cut it in masking tape and get it nice and smooth.
then using a square of some sort, mark the cut line , 20 millimeters back from the rearmost inside part of the action inlet, right where the receiver heel sits basically.
make sure this cut is square all around.



then with a coarse file, or sander with 60 grit, take down the bottom area behind the trigger inlet so everything is nice and flat as well


now, you will notice once you get the stormwerkz adaptor mentioned in post 1 , it is darn near a perfect fit to slide into the existing opening of the rear of the stock where it was cut off.
you will need to take down one side of the adaptor to fit it in. luckily, the stormwerkz is a bit thicker on one side so the removal will also help center the adaptor once we get to that step.


then on the bottom, measure a centerline back from the trigger inlet to the rear. then measure and mark a line running rearward each side of that line 3/16 ea side of the center or 5 millimeters each side. you will be cutting INSIDE these lines to achieve a slot for the 3/8" flat bar we will use for the grip mount.
start the cuts from the rear forward towards trigger inlet and stop at 6 millimeters from the trigger housing. this is the minimal gap between grip and trigger housing
when yer done it should look like this


now for the top, you will want to use the inside walls of the rear opening in the stock as your cutting guides, keeping the inside walls of this area nice and parallel at the top
you will want to cut out the top area as shown in the pics, with 6.5mm of stock remaining between heel area of inlet and the adaptor pocket. the pic should show it pretty good.


okay, I'm running an m14 clinic this weekend but will carry on with step 2, making the grip mount , when I get back.
 
I'm loving this approach. What is really cool about doing this modification is that when (notice I omitted the "if" part...) you fzck up, spare stocks are not expensive and often turn up in the EE Forum. No joking. :D

How do you think I got so much knowledge and wisdom ? It's from fzcking up all my personal projects. Now I got that "finger of authority" to point you into the right direction... :) ha ha ha ha ha

And I'm still making mistakes, just keep spare parts handy; that's advice from the NRA High Power shooting coach who mentored me!

Thomas: Thanks for doing and sharing all this fun for the tweakers out there!

:cheers:

Barney
 
Hungry said:
Thomas: Thanks for doing and sharing all this fun for the tweakers out there!

:cheers:

Barney
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No worries brutha ;)
Even though I'm retired, many cool things are taking place in my shop ;) I'm a bit of a compulsive prototyper and have many more cool "projects" to share with the do it yerselfers. ;)
 
We started developing a Chinese black plastic M14 stock adapter earnestly back in late March 2013. See the M14 Forum posting here for the April 1 date stamp in Post 6 and photos from "Lazerus2000," an M14.ca consultant. The good thing is we now have a second generation part so this might be of some interest to CGN'ers chopping and modifying a plastic stock. There are a lot of options out there to do that, as Thomas has expertly pointed out here, but ours is Canadian made, reasonably priced and engineered to be extremely durable. Have a good evening.
 
M14.CA said:
We started developing a Chinese black plastic M14 stock adapter earnestly back in late March 2013. See the M14 Forum posting here for the April 1 date stamp in Post 6 and photos from "Lazerus2000," an M14.ca consultant. The good thing is we now have a second generation part so this might be of some interest to CGN'ers chopping and modifying a plastic stock. There are a lot of options out there to do that, as Thomas has expertly pointed out here, but ours is Canadian made, reasonably priced and engineered to be extremely durable. Have a good evening.
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LOL
The stormwerkz adaptor is 50 bucks and Josh ships em for cheap. Just can't order more than 2 at a time.
I was modding dlask AR back ends into M14 and other rifle stocks quite some time before Lazerus2000 came into my life. It doesn't surprise me that he assisted you in your own development of your products.
Send me your adaptor, I'll see if it suits this project and if so I would be absolutely up for seeing folks use a canadian alternative ;)
Otherwise, I have a long track record in the field of "custom" stock manufacture and modification. This method uses the stormwerkz adaptor and spent nearly all of 2011 in adaptor selection/prototyping and destructive testing. 20 or so CGN'ers received stocks using this proven and tested mod, using the method and adaptor listed in post 1, since january 2012. So far, no complaints and I've seen maybe 1 being resold so that must mean they are working well and folks like em.
I'll stick to what I know.

Now.... Stay tuned, more is coming next week and I apologize for the interuptions hehehehe
 
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