Making cans (fake silencers)

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Dave L.

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I'm toying with the idea of buying a pistol with a threaded barrel so I can install a can onto the end for photo shoots and appearance's sake... like a USP Tactical model.

Since this would not muffle the report of the gun it would all be perfectly legal.

The thing being, though, I don't have the machinery to cut the rifling of a barrel. So, I'm wondering - are there any places that sell barrel extensions for the H&K USP or other places? If I could get the tube I could do the rest of the artwork myself. On the other hand, If this is gonna cost a lot, though, I might as well forget it.

Thanks,

- Dave.
 
Dave L. said:
I'm toying with the idea of buying a pistol with a threaded barrel so I can install a can onto the end for photo shoots and appearance's sake... like a USP Tactical model.

Since this would not muffle the report of the gun it would all be perfectly legal.

The thing being, though, I don't have the machinery to cut the rifling of a barrel. So, I'm wondering - are there any places that sell barrel extensions for the H&K USP or other places? If I could get the tube I could do the rest of the artwork myself. On the other hand, If this is gonna cost a lot, though, I might as well forget it.

Thanks,

- Dave.
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Dave, I'm in the process of building a fake can for a friend right now. What do you mean cut the rifleing? You just need an empty can that will thread on the end of the barrel do you not?
 
Cocked&Locked said:
Dave, I'm in the process of building a fake can for a friend right now. What do you mean cut the rifleing? You just need an empty can that will thread on the end of the barrel do you not?
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A very good advice:
leave the end wide open !!
Even an empty can with the end shut and only a hole in it, will be considered
"INTENT" and actually muffles SOME noise.
That is what the Crime Lab will tell the judge. Convince him otherwise ???
 
+1 w/ globetrotter.
I would set up a rig so that it's BLATANTLY clear that it's not a silencer and cannot be modified / altered to act as a silencer. Let's be honest...don't need to convince anyone here that anti's and supporters aren't just looking for a reason to nail you...

I would personally fit some black metal tubing over the end of the length of barrel...that way it's clear that the hot air flow from the muzzle is not impeded whatsoever.

I know I'm big on playing on the safe side, but I would personally steer clear of a threaded barrel that appears to be able to accept a silencer...but that's just me. I thought it was illegal...but don't quote me on that, haven't seen the documentation.
 
Dukeoflawnchair said:
I know I'm big on playing on the safe side, but I would personally steer clear of a threaded barrel that appears to be able to accept a silencer...but that's just me. I thought it was illegal...but don't quote me on that, haven't seen the documentation.
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There is nothing illegal about threaded barrels. For example, You can only get threaded Sig Mosquitos in Canada, because the barrels are extended slightly for threading and thus meet the barrel length requirement to keep them from being prohibs.
 
Dukeoflawnchair said:
+1 w/ globetrotter.
I would set up a rig so that it's BLATANTLY clear that it's not a silencer and cannot be modified / altered to act as a silencer. Let's be honest...don't need to convince anyone here that anti's and supporters aren't just looking for a reason to nail you...

I would personally fit some black metal tubing over the end of the length of barrel...that way it's clear that the hot air flow from the muzzle is not impeded whatsoever.

I know I'm big on playing on the safe side, but I would personally steer clear of a threaded barrel that appears to be able to accept a silencer...but that's just me. I thought it was illegal...but don't quote me on that, haven't seen the documentation.
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When Police inspects or "confiscates" a threaded barrel for whatever use,
they will suspect the worst and start searching for the attachment even though none exists.
They hate to leave empty handed. Not good for morale! A judge will find this a reasonable search!
 
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Hello,

In some country...Finland I think...huh...damn I feel stupid...well in some country which I for some reason "forgot" which one it is when you hunt you MUST have a silencer on your rifle! isnt that COOL imagine your hunting rifle with a silencer. lol. Something about not making too much noise when u shoot i think. yep...

Maybe im wrong but im pretty sure im right.
 
Buy an airsoft toy and save your money. If you just want to use it for pics, itll be cheaper, look better and will probably cause you less greif. This pretty much limits you to .45 Tactical USPs, I think the 9mm Tactical is no longer for sale.
 
In Great Britain "suppressors" are legal because of health and safey regulations re: hearing protection. I recently was talking with a gentleman who bought some land here and was disappointed that he would not be alble to fit one to a short barreled rifle.
 
Globetrotter said:
When Police inspects or "confiscates" a threaded barrel for whatever use,
they will suspect the worst and start searching for the attachment even though none exists.
They hate to leave empty handed. Not good for morale! A judge will find this a reasonable search!
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To hell with that. Now I'll buy the USP Tactical model just for the sake of it, I guess.

Well, I guess maybe an airsoft might be good for photo shoots, less hassle, although, I'd still like to build this thing. If I can't slap on a barrel extension, then maybe I should consider making a can that doesn't contact the bullet at all, kind of like Weatherby's Accubrake?

- Dave.
 
Yeah HK barrel extension... probably wont cost much more than a few hundred bucks.. nice fancy poly rifling..
 
Dave L. said:
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To hell with that. Now I'll buy the USP Tactical model just for the sake of it, I guess.

Well, I guess maybe an airsoft might be good for photo shoots, less hassle, although, I'd still like to build this thing. If I can't slap on a barrel extension, then maybe I should consider making a can that doesn't contact the bullet at all, kind of like Weatherby's Accubrake?

- Dave.
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No suppressors touch the bullet dave. If you get a bullet touching your suppressor chances are it's gonna blow up in your face. Best case scenario your accuracy will suck terribly.

Suppressors are just like a muffler. The idea is that they pull off, cool and slow the expanding gases from the muzzle without interfearing with the bullet.
 
Globetrotter said:
When Police inspects or "confiscates" a threaded barrel for whatever use,
they will suspect the worst and start searching for the attachment even though none exists.
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A judge will find this a reasonable search!
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Would you please substantiate that with numerous references to case law from authoritative sources?

Otherwise it's just hard to believe. Plenty of guns come from the factory with threads, and I've never heard of a search/arrest etc as a result.
 
Dave L. said:
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To hell with that.
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Dave, why don't you wait until globetrotter proves what he said. Sometimes, in fear of apparently unconstrained authority, we worry too much and make problems where none exist.

Of course, he could be right - but I want to see some evidence.
 
I just have to post a pic of my new USP Tactical again, given the nature of the thread. The practice can came with the package. :D I'm looking forward to some liberal-minded shooters pissing themselves when I attach it at the range. :popCorn:
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acrashb said:
Dave, why don't you wait until globetrotter proves what he said. Sometimes, in fear of apparently unconstrained authority, we worry too much and make problems where none exist.

Of course, he could be right - but I want to see some evidence.
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I realize now that I omitted an important factor here.
Here we go:
ONLY when Police receive a complaint of gun abuse, pointing or discharging a gun in a home, they will respond as usual. Fast ! If false alarm ,they still want to "see" all the guns of course and if they find a threaded barrel
they "have to assume" the worst and will search much further than normal.
I repeat, only after a serious complaint . Nothing else hidden? Good for you!
If you complain of illegal search , even nothing illegal was found , the judge will dismiss the case as justified
RCMP will rightly say that this is their policy. No case known to me, just their
policy (verbatim) If I alarmed any one here , my apology.
Evidence? NO, scenario? Yes.
 
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