Making cans (fake silencers)

[acrashb]

No case known to me
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Evidence? NO

There you go, another gun owner making problems from nothing. This is the kind of thinking that causes us to trigger-lock non-restricted in transit, "just in case".

Everyone here is too paranoid

You hit the nail on the head.

The practice can came with the package.

Clead, could you take some pics all around the can and post them? I'd like to see if the end is open, how much, etc. Thanks!

 

[Ironsight]

If you are worried about the legality of your modification, why don't contact your CFO office and communicate your intention. They should clear for you any legal implication that may exist.
Last time I checked, they were in the business of regulating firearms and still they should serve as a point of reference for the pertinent inquiries.
I hope this may help.

 

[Cocked&Locked]

yeah, you can talk to 12 different people, get 15 different opinions, and still catch flak from some cop who barely knows where to shove the magazine into his service pistol every morning......

 

[Skullboy]

yeah, you can talk to 12 different people, get 15 different opinions, and still catch flak from some cop who barely knows where to shove the magazine into his service pistol every morning......

This is the way it is.............unfortunately..........

The definition of a supressor is in the Criminal Code, but is open to interpretation by officers & judges. Each will have a different opinion of what a supressor is..............

Be prepared to get hassled if you have your "Fake Can" out at the range, and maybe be prepared to get arrested for having a prohibited device.

The big pain in the ass would be having to hire a lawyer and fight this.

From a Safety point if view, I personally WOULD NOT try to fire through a fake can. The Fake Cans are usually constructed of lesser/cheap materials then their real counterparts.

I did have a Fake Smith Can for my Shorty M14, but sold it in the package deal.....



SKBY.

 

[DAR 701]

This fake can can be fired through as it is made for a MAC 11 or MAC 10 (can't quite remember which but it 100% ATF approved in the US of A), I have it attached with a thread adapter to my BRS-99 which I had my 'smith thread the barrel 1/2x28tpi. Never had a problem with people at the range...

 

[acrashb]

Looks great. How's it built inside? Open at the 'busiens' end? Tube running through it to a closed-off end?

 

[Long Range Canuck]

Here's my fake can for my SIG Mosquito, it can be fired through also.

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[Coyote Ugly]

I think Fake Boobs are safer and more fun to play with!!!

 

[Long Range Canuck]

I think Fake Boobs are safer and more fun to play with!!!

Yes, but a fake can never say's no, Is always ready to shoot, never complains, and doesn't cost a fortune to keep happy!!

 

[Mudpuppy]

No suppressors touch the bullet dave. If you get a bullet touching your suppressor chances are it's gonna blow up in your face. Best case scenario your accuracy will suck terribly.

Not so, take a look at the Welrod, www.timelapse.dk/welrod.php

 

[Clead]

Clead, could you take some pics all around the can and post them? I'd like to see if the end is open, how much, etc. Thanks!

The digicam's upstairs, so I'll just describe it: it's at least 0.65" bore, smooth. Looks like they sleeved in a pipe of some kind, same diameter opening at each end and all the way through. Hope that helps.

 

[Globetrotter]

There you go, another gun owner making problems from nothing. This is the kind of thinking that causes us to trigger-lock non-restricted in transit, "just in case".


I am afraid you mis-interpreted my intention.
I am not making a problem from nothing when I intended
only for others to consider what the consequences CAN be
depending so much on individual interpretation by Police.
It was NOT my kind of thinking, but expressed by local RCMP.

 

[TheCanuck]

When i get myself a USP Tac/SIG P220 TB, it WILL sport a fake can.

 

[Suputin]

You just need an empty can that will thread on the end of the barrel do you not?

An empty can (complete with front cap) will certainly qualify as a working silencer. There is no decibel limit in Canadian to differentiate a working silencer from a fake so you'd better be ultra clear that any muzzle attachment that looks like a silencer has NO silencing effect.

Build whatever can you like, then drill a line of holes along the underside. No chance o anyone arguing that that is a suppresor.

REALLY? And how are you going to prove that? What you are proposing would certainly reduce the muzzle report to some degree and as noted above ANY reduction in sound will qualify a muzzle attachment as a silencer under Canadian law.

Not so, take a look at the Welrod, www.timelapse.dk/welrod.php

The Welrod and several other well known pistol cans do use wipes, which do touch the bullet. However wipes aren't hard or machined or rifled as the original poster was concerned about.

Personally I think fake cans aren't worth the potential hassle for the "benefit" of owning one.

 

[Jericho]

Does anyone on here know of anyone who makes fake cans for the BRS-99?

 

[XXXXX]

No suppressors touch the bullet dave. If you get a bullet touching your suppressor chances are it's gonna blow up in your face.

Not true... you're thinking baffle-style suppressor. Many suppressors (including US Navy "hush puppy" suppressors are wipe-design, meaning there are thin foam/rubber/plastic "wipes" that touch the bullet on the way out, thereby trapping/cooling the gases behind it until it has passed completely.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppressor#Wipes

 

[rattle]

So now I am interested. For a P22 in .22lr what would one want for the inside diameter for a fake can? If the bullet diameter is .223 (5.7mm) would a 6, 6.5 or 7mm ID work well without effecting accuracy or would it be better to go larger?

I am thinking of a solid piece of aluminum round stock that is drilled and tapped to fit over the barrel that sticks out past the slide. I can't stand the fake compensator that is held on by a set screw and wobbles around.

 

[ben hunchak]

Okay...let me get my head around this one..your going to put a "can" on the end of your gun right? Have you considered putting a bottle on the end as they are already threaded? All you will need is a" pop bottle threadXbarrel thread adapter",it may be the same thread as the common garden hose, in which case you could use Gardenia quick couplers. Just remember..I thought of it first!!

 

[22lr]

Build whatever can you like, then drill a line of holes along the underside. No chance o anyone arguing that that is a suppresor.

Firstly, it will actually reduce muzzle report. And of course with a chunk of garden hose over the top of it it becomes the suppressor. Forget it, its not worth the trouble.

 

[22lr]

So now I am interested. For a P22 in .22lr what would one want for the inside diameter for a fake can? If the bullet diameter is .223 (5.7mm) would a 6, 6.5 or 7mm ID work well without effecting accuracy or would it be better to go larger?

I am thinking of a solid piece of aluminum round stock that is drilled and tapped to fit over the barrel that sticks out past the slide. I can't stand the fake compensator that is held on by a set screw and wobbles around.

I think bigger hole is better for accuracy. Bullet drags sonic wave and if its too close to the surface then it reflects that wave back. And if one of the walls is closer then it will affect bullet path even if its not touching the bullet itself.

Now regarding P22. I have mentioned it earlier on some other threads, P22 barrel is way too thin and mounted to a pussy plastic frame with a little clamp with just one screw. If you put anything on the barrel that is longer than barrel and presumably heavy ( like chunk of solid aluminium) if will wreck your otherwise good gun. I say do not mess with it.