making sausage with frozen burgar

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hey all..
got a wee bit of moose burgar we want to make into sausage.the meat is frozen now
can we thaw it out...mix in some pork or beef fat,then what ever spices we want,then refreeze it??
thanks for any input here(recipes are welcome to) :wink:
cheers
Don
 
As far as I know and have always donr , once it is frozen that is it . What you would have to do is either make sausage as you want it . OR you could thaw your meat and make sausage but you would have to cook it all right away and then freeze it once it is cooked !!!

Just a thought
 
I have frozen hamburger, thawed it, made sausage and re-froze it before. I'm still alive and the sausage was great. A good way to thaw large quantities of meat is to put it in tubs and put it on a concrete floor in your basement.

I don't think you'll have a problem, just watch you meat temp an don't let it get warm. Its way better to make sausage with cold meat than room temp meat.

Brambles
 
We made sausage like that many many times, by thawing out the frozen product ,whether it was deer or pork, mixed it up made the sausage and we always hung it over nite in a cool place then cut into 6 in pieces and freeze it in 2 litre milk containers filled with water. Keeps in the freezer way longer as it will not get freezer burnt as easy . Found some in the freezer once time that was almost 2 yrs old and when cooked was still good as ever !!!!!
Bearcat
 

I have a very good professional sausage maker who will not use frozen ground meat but will use frozen meat.

The reason has to do with the bacteria that may have already started to grow in the hamburger. I think when ground meat is thawing and until it is frozen again, bacteria are growing. That all started when the burger was first made and was at room temperature until it was frozen.

As far as the actual thawing and re-freezing, that does not harm the sausage at all.
 
I agree with guntech and shortround. Either start with NON-ground meat, or if you start with previously frozen burger, make up your batch of sausage and cook it off before re-freezing. I did make a batch of sausage this past year from previously frozen ground venison, and it did not hurt me either, but I thought at the time that:

1. it was not necessarily the smartest thing I ever did; and

2. the flavour and consistency I found was not as good.

But hey, what you have is frozen ground moose, and what you want is sausage, so let's deal with your reality Here is Doctor Doug's prescription:

1. Thaw the frozen meat in your refrigerator.

2. Buy an amount of FRESH (not previously frozen) lean ground pork equal to about one third the weight of the ground moose.

3. Lay out a large plastic bag or similar surface on a table and put the two types of meat on it. Mix them up by hand until the mixture is fairly homogeneous, then pat down into a big "pizza" about a half-inch thick. Season all over the surface with Montreal steak spice, whole cumin, garlic powder (or granulated garlic, or fresh garlic, fresh being the best), then drizzle honey all over it. Mix it up again by hand (like kneading dough).

4. When you think you have achieved a good level of homogeneity again, take a small portion of the mixture, flatten it into a patty and fry it in a fry pan. TASTE IT. If the seasonings are good, then you are ready for step 5. If not, add whatever is missing. Typically at this point I find I need to add some seasoning salt, because there is not enough salt in the steak spice to give the sausage enough flavour. (Un-salty sausages are blander than powdered skim milk...) Knead the mixture again. Make another patty with the mixture, cook it and TASTE IT. When you are happy with the taste, go to step 5.

5. If you have a sausage stuffer, make your sausages and either:

a. cook them now and eat them or freeze them cooked;

b. smoke them for two pans of smoke in a smoker (apple wood is very good for this); or

c. freeze them and take a chance on how they taste later when they are thawed and cooked.

6. If you do not have a sausage stuffer, just package the sausage meat up in packages of a pound or so and you have country sausage - you make patties and fry them in the fry pan. Then either:

a. cook them now and eat them or freeze them cooked;

b. make the patties now, and smoke them for two pans of smoke in a smoker (apple wood is very good for this); or

c. freeze them and take a chance on how they taste later when they are thawed and cooked.

And save some for Doctor Doug, eh? :D

Doug
 
Doctor Doug DOES make house calls, and my favourite colour is Blue. :D But if I visit I would also want to meet your sister-in-law! :lol:

Last year I bought an electric meat grinder with 2 sausage tubes (breakfast sausage and standard 1" sausage like bratwurst) for just over $200, taxes included, from a kitchen supply place here in town. When I was out west, I went in to the Costco store with bullcoon, and they were selling the same rig for about $179 I think it was. It is a fabulous rig and I can get you the name of it if you wish.

But to be honest I have not done cased sausage with it yet, I have just been making country sausage because it is faster.......

Doug
 
I usually take out a few pkgs of ground moose , thaw it out and mix it with about 1/3 the weight of fresh ground pork , plus spices...enough to just make a small batch of about 6 lbs. of breakfast sausage....doesn't last long so no need to re-freeze ...plus you get fresh sausage more often .That being said , it was a sorta tradition around this time of year for the guys to clean out the freezer(s) by getting a big batch of smokies,sausages, pepperettes, etc. made up . Some times we made our own , other times we got them made up by different area butchers No ill effects were experienced from this refrozen meat .
 
We got lazy last year and had the butcher make the mince. we then froze it and made sausage in the summer. There's no problem with refreezing the ground in sausage form as long as the sausage is smoked first. I wouldnt recommend refreezing raw thawed ground chuck.

Besides for best results...save your meat "leavings" in chunks not pre ground. When its time to make the sausage...take it out...thaw it...then grind yourself. Makes for better texture and better sausage.

My .02c
 
EnfieldMike said:
We got lazy last year and had the butcher make the mince. we then froze it and made sausage in the summer. There's no problem with refreezing the ground in sausage form as long as the sausage is smoked first. I wouldnt recommend refreezing raw thawed ground chuck.

Besides for best results...save your meat "leavings" in chunks not pre ground. When its time to make the sausage...take it out...thaw it...then grind yourself. Makes for better texture and better sausage.

My .02c
I find the same, I will mince partially thawed diced meat and freeze the sausages that I make from it, it really does mince easier if a bit frozen still, the sort that is when you put steak near the ice compartment or leave the fridge on too cold and everything is a bit frosty. It is important to freeze the sausages in airtight bags. I find that if I suck the air out with a straw, not having a vacuum sealer yet really stops the frost inside the bag which causes freezer burn. I have just started poaching some overdue venison, pork and garlic ones for the dogs, we normally make everything within a month of its planned use but these were in the botton tray of our fridge and remained frozen (I kid you not) from the august bank holiday BBQ. I'd rather let the dogs have a hot treat than waste them, with 6 spaniels it all helps with the feed bill. After I process the game into pies, the rabbit remains etc will go to the mutts!
I use a bradley smoker but I have found that smoking the meat before rehydrating and stuffing into casings has a better effect than accidentally part cooking them during smoking!
 
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