Manitoulin Deer Hunt report (Photos)

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I met a fellow at family camp in Northern Ontario just over a year ago and he invited me to check out the deer hunting on Manitoulin Island where he lives. So, Friday afternoon, I loaded up the old '97 Suburban and made the eight hour drive. It is a large island along the north shore of Lake Huron.

Since the deer season didn't start until Monday, we launched his boat to go after some big Lake Huron Rainbow Trout, but there was a brisk North wind blowing and the rollers were so large, we had to turn back. We loaded up the boat and launched it again, but this time in an inland lake on the island. It was dadgummed cold, with the temperature just above freezing and that North wind keeping us extra cool. There was no one else crazy enough to be sport fishing that day so we had the lake to ourselves. I managed to catch one Walleye and the other fellow caught one the same size. Here's a photo of mine, a 29 incher .......
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Sunday we went to a church on the Ojibway Wikwemikong reservation. It was my kind of service .... very informal, with the pastor sitting on a stool at the front giving a very good teaching and the people interrupting the pastor from time to time to ask questions. I really enjoyed the informal way they had church and the people seemed to all know each other and care for one another. It was kind of like a big family. I wish a lot more churches were like that. The rest of the day we loafed around, which I don't get to do very often.

Monday morning I hauled myself out of bed at 5:00 am. Just between you and me, I never enjoy getting out of the sack at that unearthly hour, but for deer hunting or fishing, I'll do it voluntarily. By 5:30 we were loading the truck and heading out into the darkness. It was quite a bit below freezing, with a bit of snow giving the ground a dusting. My friend dropped me off at my location, along the edge of a hayfield, and continued on to another place about 300 yards away in the bush. Between trying to stay awake and trying to stay warm with that doggone North wind getting brisker by the day, the time slowly passed. Suddenly, around 9:00 am, I saw a buck making its way toward me from the far corner of the hayfield. The wind was blowing from behind me not directly at the buck, but at a shallow angle from him and I knew he'd smell me sooner or later. I eased the hammer back to full #### and watched him through my Lyman receiver sight as he got nearer. Finally, at 61 yards away (measured later), he stopped and looked at me for a couple seconds and then looked back over his shoulder. I figured I'd better make my move. He was pretty much square on to me, with his head still looking back. I aimed for his chest and squeezed the trigger of Old Savage, my Winchester Model 94 30-30 that was made in 1954. The buck went down on the spot.

I'd forgotten my camera back at the house, so I had to use my iPhone to take a few photos. They aren't the greatest, but you get the picture .....

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We went back to my friend's place about mid day and I cleaned and skinned out the eight-point buck. The 150 grain cast RCBS bullet over 25 grains of RL-7 powder had entered the chest, crossed over and stopped under the skin about half way back. Here's a photo of the recovered bullet ....
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The bullet was going about 2,220 fps when it left the muzzle. The expanded bullet weighed 133 grains, so it lost about 17 grains, counting the gas check.

2:30 in the afternoon found me back at the edge of the same hayfield and my friend back at his post further in the bush. There was the usual temptation to nod off (I get very relaxed in the bush .... kinda like home for me) then with less than a half hour of available light left, I spotted another buck moving at a fast walk along the far edge of the hayfield next to the bush. When he got directly opposite me, he showed no sign of stopping, so I let Old Savage rip once again at a later measured range of 82 yards. The buck took off like there was a pack of howling Banshees on its tail. It cranked a tight 360 degree circle so fast that as it tore around the curve, its body was 45 degrees to the ground. Then it straightened out and tore into the bush at top speed. However, I had seen a rosy patch when he straightened out, on what was the side facing away from me when I shot, so figured the bullet had gone right through both lungs. Sure enough, there were spots of blood on the grass. I radioed my friend that I'd connected with a buck and then began to track the spots of blood on various leaves and trees. It was getting dark, by now, but fortunately, I had one of those fancy head lamps and was still able to pick out spots of blood from time to time. When I couldn't find any, I'd make an educated guess about 20 feet ahead and, sure enough, there was some more blood spots on branches or leaves. About 100 yards from where he'd been hit I found him. Deader than a doornail. This buck also had a small eight point rack and was a little heavier than the first one. Upon cleaning and skinning him this evening, I saw that the bullet had gone through both lungs, just forward of the diaphram. This time I had my normal camera; here's a couple photos .....

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Today I headed back home with two bucks in the back of the old Suburban. Two bullets, two eight-point bucks. I have to confess, though, that I had fired off between 200 and 300 rounds practicing for a couple months before hunting season, so I guess, strictly speaking, it wasn't really two bullets. Good thing I reload with cast bullets (cheap like Borscht). I had a great time practicing with this little 30-30 carbine and an even better time this weekend, harvesting those two Whitetail deer.
 
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I hunted Manitoulin Island as a kid before moving out to Alberta.East Bluff in Gore Bay is where I shot my first deer on our farm..................lots of good memories................Harold
 
Congrats Kirk....now you can send the gun back...you do not need it anymore. I kinda felt that the gun would connect for you...being a B-Day gun and all. I hope my "47 Trusty" will be as good to me. how was the buck fever? lol...lol
 
Congrats Kirk....now you can send the gun back...you do not need it anymore. I kinda felt that the gun would connect for you...being a B-Day gun and all. I hope my "47 Trusty" will be as good to me. how was the buck fever? lol...lol

Heh, heh! I had no buck fever for the first buck, but the second one got the old pulse rate up when I first saw it. I had to calm myself and decide exactly when to take the shot. I must confess that I was not totally happy with my shot on the second buck. Although through both lungs, it was a little further back than I had aimed. Last night I did some calculations. Moving along at a brisk walk like he was, and at 82 yards, he would have moved forward at least 8 inches by the time my bullet reached him. I've dropped another buck with my 38-55 on a different year that was running flat out, but I aimed 3 feet in front of him. This time, since this buck was only walking briskly, I did not lead him at all, which I now see was a mistake. Still, the one shot did the job, but I now realize that a person must adjust his shot for even a walking deer.

For those of you who do not know, I bought this carbine off Winnipeg Toymaker. Not only was it made the same year I was born (1954), but it is a nice looking 30-30 with that figuring in the buttstock. It has also earned its place in my modest collection of old Winchesters, even if it is the least old of them all.
 
Were the bullets cast from #2 alloy ? I picked up a Lee 170gr mold but may scoop a 150gr one as well.Took me a while but I finally found/bought a 375296 mold for my Grandpa's 38-55 [265gr GC] Are they issuing two tags on the Island these days?I haven't hunted there for years and the farms since been sold.Good story and nice eating deer...............Harold *any hints on casting 38-55 for a 1894 Win?
 
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Harold, I believe you can get a second tag (buck). However, I was hunting in a party of two (party hunting is permitted under certain conditions cited on page 23 of the Ontario Hunting regs). The other fellow was a bit unenthusiastic about eating all that venison, so I took both home. Regarding the alloy, I had a local caster whip those up for me so I don't know what he used. I've since started casting on my my own. I'm planning to use WW and drop the bullets in water. Regarding 38-55 casting, I had a custom mould made up by Veral Smith of LBT moulds. I've yet to try it out, but it is designed for oversize, plain base bullets to fit my oversize bore (made in 1899 according to the factory letter).
 
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Yes,from what I've read .38-55 bore size can run from .377"-.380" The Lyman recipe for #2 alloy is 9 lbs of WW + 1 lb of 50/50 bar solder. I remember in Ont. they allowed party hunting as long as you had tags to cover the animals taken in your group.I have an old book from Wolff publishing "The Art of Bullet Casting" with a lot of info on discontinued molds and had to find data for obscure calibers.I've squirreled away about 500 lbs of WW's and the same amt of pure lead for my muzzleloaders.Good thing I did as the $ of lead is now doubled!...................Harold
 
38-55, you were hunting right next door to me.

Did better than us as well, we only got 4 bucks this season and on a points wise match we'd be tied, you got 16 and so did we.

Manitoulin has a rate of 99% doe tags as well doesn't it? You gotta watch them haw eaters there though.
 
Harold, when I had the local caster pour me a batch of 38-55 bullets, I always had him make them real soft (BHN 8). He used pure lead with just a bit of tin, about a 1:40 mix. I found that even though the bullets were undersized to my 38-55 bore, they bumped up and gave good accuracy (5 shot groups at 100 yards that were around 2"). I did harvest a Whitetail buck a few years ago with this soft bullet. It left the muzzle at about 1,450 fps and connected at 75 yards, sailed right through and made a decent sized exit hole.
 
38-55, you were hunting right next door to me.

Did better than us as well, we only got 4 bucks this season and on a points wise match we'd be tied, you got 16 and so did we.

Manitoulin has a rate of 99% doe tags as well doesn't it? You gotta watch them haw eaters there though.

By gum, MadDog, if I recall, you hunt behind that Music Camp. I don't know the rate of doe tags for Manitoulin, I had one but my friend did not. I usually hunt a bit further up on the north side of the F&G, but I couldn't resist an invitation to Manitoulin this year. I heard that MNR said that the deer harvest on St Joes was only 30% of usual this year. Judging from the lack of shooting I was hearing on Monday, I'd say the deer harvest on Manitoulin might be significantly down this year as well. You got me scratching my head over 'haw eaters'. What are those?
 
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