*** March Purchases ***

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1942 Swedish 6x30 Military Binoculars
(Mfg in Germany by Busch, Rathenow)


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In beautiful condition. I don't think they've ever been issued....

Regards,
Badger


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.... and something else that I've been looking for awhile... :D

1915 Erfurt Bayonet/Scabbard/Frog c/w with Troddel
"Troddel represents 4th Company Colors"


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In pretty good condition for its age.

Regards,
Badger


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ok, here's some of the march purchases...

First, the PU sniper:

This one started out as a decomissioned PU sniper with a perfect bore and matching (restamped at refurb) numbers. The stock was a WW2 era 91/30 Tula stock that had been shortened in Ukraine by the refurb armorers by about 2 inches during a repair/rework process. The handguard was shortened too. It was also pretty beat up.

I got a correct Tula replacement stock with the Tula star on the underside and the "box-slash" refurb marking on the butt and a proper length handguard. Also got a milled base and mount, probably post-war (?) but definitely a correct set built to the correct military dimensions. The scope is a correct original (not a repro) 1943-ish WW2 scope that's been refurbed. Bolt handle is an exact duplicate of the original PU bolt by "JimR" from gunboards and built on the original matched at refurb bolt body. Scope cover is an original. Interestingly, the rear sight assembly and base are Tula bits and are unpinned. The mag assembly is also Tula, as are all the internals. Only Izhevsk bits are the cocking piece, bolt head, rear band and the rear sight spring. I didn't swap anything out - it came this way.

I think it came out well. All the restoration metal work was done by a licensed gunsmith (Jason Spencer at Gunco). The rear receiver screw hole was the only thing that didn't line up (out by about 1.5mm), so the errant hole in the receiver receiver was professionally tig welded up, a new hole drilled in a milling machine to prevent bit wandering, and re-tapped to specification. The receiver was then stripped of parts, spun off the barrel and given a Russian-style hot-dip blue duplicating the exact finish that was on it before the welding. The metal was not cleaned up anywhere except at the weld, both inside and outside the receiver. (old finish was at 100% too as it is a refurb) If you're going to do something, might as well do it right ;)

Mount was also correctly filed for windage.

My only complaint is that the scope mount inletting might be too good. The smith inletted the wood so it looks like it grew around the metal. I doubt Ivan ever pumped out workmanship that good in the darkest days of 1943... but oh well. I can live with that.

Still haven't shot it yet since conversion, but it drove tacks before and probably still will ;)

Externally, this rifle is 100% indistinguishable from a legitimate PU refurb IMHO, but it won't ever be sold as a fake thanks to the JR monogram stamped into the underside of the bolt to prevent fakery ;) Though it truely is more of a restoration than a fake in my eyes.

What do you guys think of the end-result?

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The Swedish M38b

Based on an 1899 Carl Gustafs Stad Gevarsfaktori M96. Not much to say about this piece. It's close to unissued. I like it. That's about it. I have the bayonet, sling, front sight hood and a few other goodies en-route to complement it.

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Didn't I just read a thread where you berrated a fellow for bubba'ing a mosin by altering the wood and having it tapped for a posp mount? ;)

I suppose you went about it in a bit more professional way though.
Nice rifle none the less.
 
I didn't bubba anything. This was already a sniper rifle, but the scope and mount was missing and the stock damaged ;) And also it's a real sniper - not an infantry rifle faked into a sniper, and finally this model is a real model, not a fantasy piece.

And by the way, the wood on this rifle has the original shellac finish - i didn;t strip it off. The scope and all the parts are real milled military parts, not cheap e-bay repro junk.

And did I mention this is a REAL PU sniper rifle that was just missing the optics?!?!?!?! oh yea, I did that in the original post, didn't I?

Geez... Apple... this is Orange. Come in Apple?
 
Claven2 said:
I didn't bubba anything. This was already a sniper rifle, but the scope and mount was missing and the stock damaged ;) And also it's a real sniper - not an infantry rifle faked into a sniper, and finally this model is a real model, not a fantasy piece.

Just for the uneducated, but curious, in these matters... what's the value of a such a piece 'restored' vs a intact 'original'? :confused:
 
In my opinion:

Intact original = $1500+++ in Canada.
Restored original = $1000 (approx)
Bubba'd non-original = the sum of it's parts.

FYI:
Ex-sniper: about $300
Bolt work, if needed: $60 or so.
Assorted gunsmithing: $200-250 to do it right.
Good quality repro or original military milled steel mount and base: $250-300
Original PU scope: $300++
Repro PU scope: $200++


A restoration using all original parts is likely going to cost in the neighborhood of $1500, so it's certainly NOT cost effective to restore one of these. But, you can spread the cost out by buying the parts over time.

I only did it this way because I literally could not find a nice wartime Tula PU for sale that didn't need some restoration. There just aren't enough around for everyone to find one. Heck, even snipers in need of some restoration like this one are HARD to find in Canada. Took me years to find this one.
 
Century has some real snipers with cheap repro mounts & scopes & I am seriously thinking of importing one. Looking at the century billboard would kill me but I am literaly dieing to have an original sniper.
 
The Century ones aren't real snipers - just infantry rifles they had made up in the Ukraine last year ;)

But they are a decent price.
 
Claven2 said:
I didn't bubba anything. This was already a sniper rifle, but the scope and mount was missing and the stock damaged ;) And also it's a real sniper - not an infantry rifle faked into a sniper, and finally this model is a real model, not a fantasy piece.

And by the way, the wood on this rifle has the original shellac finish - i didn;t strip it off. The scope and all the parts are real milled military parts, not cheap e-bay repro junk.

And did I mention this is a REAL PU sniper rifle that was just missing the optics?!?!?!?! oh yea, I did that in the original post, didn't I?

Geez... Apple... this is Orange. Come in Apple?

Were the sniper rifles not just a basic infantry rifles with a scope put on them? They weren't purpose built as sniper rifles with match barrels, minimum headpace, improved trigger design, etc.....?
 
Hitzy said:
Were the sniper rifles not just a basic infantry rifles with a scope put on them? They weren't purpose built as sniper rifles with match barrels, minimum headpace, improved trigger design, etc.....?

No, they were not. The sniper rifles got hand fitted internals and were selected at the proof house for demonstrating much better than average accuracy off the bench. Then they were sent to a different oart of the factory where the most skilled workers did all the conversion work, stoning, inletting, etc.

Design wise though, you are right. I guess the same logic is true of Lee Enfield Snipers, K98k snipers, etc.

Where's my drill and tap again???
 
Coyote Ugly said:
Nice sniper project Claven! I might do the same with this original rig:

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You probably know this, and it's not incorrect for a 1942 or later PU sniper, but that scope is an SVT scope.
 
Claven2 said:
You probably know this, and it's not incorrect for a 1942 or later PU sniper, but that scope is an SVT scope.

How fortunate, I could do two projects then and swap the scope back and forth!
 
Here is my only rifle that is not at least 60 years old....finally got the wood stock put on last week. Now just have to find some time to shoot it:)
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Picked up a little trinket to sit on the side of my mk1 Bren. It is one of the Plessey Fixed Line Sights. It came out of collectors source. They had sold out of these a decade ago, but received this one back as part of a trade in.
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Only problem with it is it interferes with my 100 round Bren drum, so I will have to pick up another Bren on which to display that.
 
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