*** March Purchases ***
- Thread starter BadgerDog
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here are some pics of stuff I bought plus other Russian/Finnish stuff
here are some pics (I Hope)
click on the url below to see the artillery Luger
http://www.hunt101.com/img/482029.JPG
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here are some pics (I Hope)
click on the url below to see the artillery Luger
http://www.hunt101.com/img/482029.JPG
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go ahead and yell at me but the books I read (plus quite afew non refurb rifles I owned before)said that they should have a linseed type finish and the red shellec was added at the arsenal after post war re-furb so I was looking for the war time look .if I screwed up oh well .I've had the 14.5 for a while I have a few rds for it as well it belonged to my buddy he has fired it quite often .I don't know why the Luger pic didn't come up like the others you have to click on the url I'll have to figure that out.
I won't yell at you, but your books aren't right.
All the way back to 1891, the correct finish has always been dewaxed garnet shellac over an oiled birch stock (or walnut on Remington M91's). The bright side is it's easy to reapply if you should so desire.
I have unissued non-refurbed M91/30's from 1940 and 1941 and they have shellac finish. Karl-Heinz Wrobel, author of the definitive Drei Linien Gewehr has hundreds of color plates of unissued or very low mileage Mosins captured by the Germans in WW1 and WW2, all have shellac finish. All the Russian techincal manuals refer to a sellac coating on the stock.
IMHO, you should consider no longer removing it
All the way back to 1891, the correct finish has always been dewaxed garnet shellac over an oiled birch stock (or walnut on Remington M91's). The bright side is it's easy to reapply if you should so desire.
I have unissued non-refurbed M91/30's from 1940 and 1941 and they have shellac finish. Karl-Heinz Wrobel, author of the definitive Drei Linien Gewehr has hundreds of color plates of unissued or very low mileage Mosins captured by the Germans in WW1 and WW2, all have shellac finish. All the Russian techincal manuals refer to a sellac coating on the stock.
IMHO, you should consider no longer removing it
i shall heed your advise i was in two minds myself but most of my reading was done from the net and looking at pics from the net quite a few had wood that wasn't shellaced at least not any more .live and learn it just means i have to get another one and leave it red.there are a couple I know of ,one is a sniper which has been in this guys basement for the last 30years that is not red and it is rather beat up but I've looked at quite closely and there is no sign that it ever was shellaced ,he has over the years stripped it for parts the bolt is missing as is the scope but the mounting bracket is still there the stock is yellow birch like mine (the owner never did a thing to it and he dosen't care about it BUT HE WON"T SELL IT TO ME)
it is Finnish and it's not stripped i went to my dealer in Acton when he first got the shipment from Finland they had 90 M39s about 1/3 had this colour wood it just caught my eye the ones with the flame birch dark wood were very nice too the 3 dark M91's are Finnish capture from the same shipment they are all stained with that dark colour .they had about 120 M91's I spent quite a few hours picking through them but they were all nice the M39's (some M39s were rebuilt as late as the 1960's some say even later)and M91's were all FTR at the near the end of the war and put in storage a few of the rifles had little tags with targets on them and Finnish writing I have one of those tags somewhere .the glue joints on the M91 stocks are all the war time rounded type not the post war square type my M39 has the post war square type joint and I'm guessing that is also why it's not stained dark.BTW the SVT 40's that are pictured are not refinished either the one on the left is a 1943 Tula I bought off a collecter 10 years ago he had for 25years it's really quite neat it has the full auto version stock on it the stock has the big A and the a big Tula Star and is also dated 1943 .the Russions used up these stocks as the full auto gun wasn't a success the Svt 40 to the right is a very well used it was built at the Kovrov arsenal in 1940 it has the 6 vent muzzle break it hasn't been rebuilt
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Nice NZD carbine, though that's not the right HG.
As for the M39, the ones that are blonde like that jut mean they are unissued since refurb and ot a post-war wood set at that time. Teh wartime ones are all finished in pine tar, hence the dark look.
As for the M39, the ones that are blonde like that jut mean they are unissued since refurb and ot a post-war wood set at that time. Teh wartime ones are all finished in pine tar, hence the dark look.
Ok my turn with purchases.
Picked up this nice 1941 Sako M-39. The bore is not mirror but is slightly dark with strong rifling and very little pitting in some lands. The rifle seems to be matching, however no S/N on butt plate and wood. The rear of the bolt (the round part) has a different # but the body of the bolt is matching. I hope our guru's (Claven) can shed more light.
Picked up this nice 1941 Sako M-39. The bore is not mirror but is slightly dark with strong rifling and very little pitting in some lands. The rifle seems to be matching, however no S/N on butt plate and wood. The rear of the bolt (the round part) has a different # but the body of the bolt is matching. I hope our guru's (Claven) can shed more light.
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Abolsolutely beautiful Speckfire. I love that Sako marked stock. Very nice. I would be interested to know what maker and year your reciever is, when you take it apart, check it in the usual location for date and factory stamp.
