Marlin 1894 vs Rossi Puma

Unregistered said:
Marlin is easy to field strip. Just a takedown screw, and everything comes out, and there are only about 5 parts...
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Very true- they are a joy to field strip. Only thing to watch out for in my experience is to make sure you remove the ejector and put it in a safe place while you clean the gun; mine seems to be particularly prone to "disappearing" if I'm not careful.

As to recoil, I did put a Mr. Mike's pad on mine after enthusiastically taking it to the range the first time and going through a box of 240gr. ammo wearing only a t-shirt. (Yes, I was also wearing trousers and shoes, etc. for those of you who are wondering :p) My "bear defence" load is 265 gr. Hornady FP over a max load (21 gr. I think) of H-110. A few rounds of those or 240 gr. cast (over 2400) wouldn't be a problem without the pad but practising might result in some discomfort.

:) Stuart
 
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I had no idea the .44s had recoil! I can take an 870 18" with 3" slugs...it's not akin or worst than that...is it?!
 
mr00jimbo said:
I had no idea the .44s had recoil! I can take an 870 18" with 3" slugs...it's not akin or worst than that...is it?!
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Not THAT kind of recoil! But "taking an 870 with 3" slugs" can mean a lot of things (including "how many before you can't shoot straight?") I can "take 30 rounds of 405 gr. @ 1750 fps from my Marlin 1895", too, but I'll suffer for it afterwards. Macho isn't the name of the game here :p It's being able to shoot the gun effectively. Plus, perceived recoil is a personal thing; it also depends on the design of the stock and the recoil velocity, as a perusal of the Nitro Express forums will demonstrate, where people discuss the perceived recoil of the .416 vs the .458 or the .470 vs the .505. Try some of those is you want RECOIL.

According to one of the online recoil calculators, a 6.5 lb. rifle, such as a .44 Marlin., shooting a 240 gn. bullet at 1750 fps. and the same weight of rifle in 30-30 shooting a 170 gn. bullet at 2250 both have around 14 ft-lbs.of recoil, which is pretty mild. But as some people have posted, they find the recoil a bit tiring. "YMMV." Last week I did a bit of shooting working up loads for my Martini-Enfield .303 carbine, which is prob. around 7 lbs. and has a steel butt-plate. Recoil is about 17 ft.-lbs. No problem. But I shot slowly, with time out between strings to handload.

I don't think you'd find the .44 mag much of a problem unless you tried to go through 100 rounds in a thin shirt, esp. with the stock Marlin "hockey puck" buttplate.

:) Stuart
 
Oh I can imagine tons of .44 loads being unpleasant I just didn't realize the severity of the recoil.
I can handle my 12 gauge, but my 30-06 lightweight with 180 gr loads makes me wince thinking about firing, so i had to put a recoil pad on it :redface:
 
Holy sh!t, some of you gals need to cowboy up! If you cant handle the recoil from a pistol cartridge in a rifle you need some help.

Shoot a 45-70 loaded to the t!ts next to a max loaded 44 mag or 45 Colt in a rifle that weighs the same, you will soon find out what recoil is all about :eek:

And yes I have, hundreds of times.
 
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