Marlin 30-30 disable safety???

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Guys,

I have a newer stainless Marlin 30-30 and it has both hammer safety and a push button safety. While I really like the rifle in general, I think this double safety is the stupidest thing I've seen. Last year when I shot my deer the hammer dropped when I pulled the trigger but the gun did not fire. It's because the push button safety was on as it lets you drop the hammer but interupts the firing pin. After that I had to pull the hammer back again and turn off the push button safety. This time the gun fired and I got my deer. Luckily it didnt run away.

I dont want this to happen again and would like to somehow disable the push button safety. I must assume that I am not the only guy out there who does not like this dum safety on the new Marlin and perhaps there is some sort of aftermarket replacement safety available somewhere.

Any ideas?
 
I strongly advise anyone who asks me this question, to just get used to the push safety and leave it there. Leave it always in the fire position, and use the hammer safety, as lever action rifles were developed with a great many years ago.
Except when unloading ammo from the magazine. Unloading the tube mags has always been a sore spot. You either awkwardly get them out the way they went in, or lever them out through the action. There is a potential danger in them going through the action, but with the push safety on, that danger is removed.
 
I have the extra safety on my Marlin.

I consider it a plus, and thought of disabling it has never crossed my mind.

As mentioned already, certainly makes unloading the rifle safer. Three position safeties that enable this are considered just about a must have on bolt actions, are they not?

What other rifle out there, besides an older lever action, doesn't have a safety to flip off when it's time to shoot??? Couple of older single shot break actions, like an H&R maybe?

I really don't get what all the fuss is from so many owners? It's about "safety"!!!

You know?

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Edward Teach, thanks for that link. That is one slick little kit that I will be ordering for a couple of my Marlins.

Rebel that I am, I may even carry my newer Rem870 shotguns with the trigger-lock button in the unlocked position. Yesterday I had my 1895 Marlin out behind the barn doing some shooting, and I actually carried it out the door without having the lever locked in place with that strap-like doohickey that supposedly makes it safe. My last Encore rifle came with a plastic box-like locking contraption designed to cover the hammer, and I plan on (gasp!) leaving that home when I hunt with it this fall.

Tomorrow, I may run with scissors...I'm even thinking of eating a piece of unpasteurized cheese!

Where will it end??? The horror....the horror....
 
I have the CBS on some of my Marlins and don't mind it, although I'm very aware that it's on or off when I'm hunting as I too have dropped the hammer on a round at the range and not had it go "boom" because of the CBS being engaged. I find the "Safety Warning" on the right side of the barrel to be more of an eye sore/nuissance than the CBS.

One reason I like the CBS it is that I feel more comfortable dry-firing the rifle with it engaged (e.g., to test the trigger pull). The CBS prevents the hammer from striking the back of the pin and causing undue stress on the more delicate parts of the firing mechanism.

I'm just thankful that Marlin didn't put a rebounding hammer on their centerfire rifles like they did with the 39a.
 
H4831 said:
I strongly advise anyone who asks me this question, to just get used to the push safety and leave it there. Leave it always in the fire position, and use the hammer safety, as lever action rifles were developed with a great many years ago.
Except when unloading ammo from the magazine. Unloading the tube mags has always been a sore spot. You either awkwardly get them out the way they went in, or lever them out through the action. There is a potential danger in them going through the action, but with the push safety on, that danger is removed.
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stickhunter said:
One reason I like the CBS it is that I feel more comfortable dry-firing the rifle with it engaged
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These are the two reasons I like it. I have gotten in the habit of always checking the safety with my finger, all the time! It becomes second nature. It's those stupid 3 position model 70 safties that get me when I got a critter lined up. :D
 
Personally I think the cross bolt safety on the Marlins is the answer to the question that nobody asked. It all comes back to increasingly litigious people especially in the U.S. The rash of lawsuits beginning in the 80's was the cause as well as the increasingly heavy trigger pulls on production rifles. You could sell it and pick up an older model, they're usually better guns anyway.
 
I use an O-ring on the safety of my 1895GS. To unload it, I push the lever forward then empty the live round out the ejection port. I don't have to chamber the live round while unloading that way.
 
i took mine out and went for the kit ,, best thing i ever did ,, i am a lefty and tend to bump the old crossbolt partly on , it doesnt bother me any more, i have a few 94 winchesters i use they worked just fine, why the extra safety, overkill too me ,,wade
 
Edward Teach said:
http://www.leverguns.com/articles/taylor/crossbolt_safety.htm

Not sure if there's a stainless one though.
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I have ordered a pile of these from Clyde and they are great. The last time I contacted him he didn't want to send to Canada anymore because of the Paperwork :confused:(I don't remember exactly what his concern was). I had to convince him with extra cash to get a few more up here.

I had a bunch of pics with details that I have sent out here on how to make your own using the factory cross bolt. I am missing some of the pictures but if anyone is interested PM me and I can make one up and take more pics.

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I have two extra cross bolts here as well. If anyone is interested in trying to make their own and keep the original PM me and I will send you one.

I didn't do a very good job on this one(rushed). Quite embarrassing actually :redface:. But these pics will give you the rough idea:

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Funny how so many guys like this goofy safety. Before I bought this gun I read on the internet how guys liked the gun in general but did not like the new safety. I thought pretty much the same thing as some of you guys... Just leave the safety off and forget about it. Well I hunted with it for a few days and pretty much did what some of youve sugested... Load the gun, check the safety, go hunt. Simple right?

That worked great until the first deer I saw and sure as heck, CLICK... Hammer dropped and no bang.

I'm not braggin when I say this... but I shoot a couple thousand rounds a year and know guns better than most. If it happened to me, it can happen to any of you sooner or later.

So far I have not found an aftermarket replacement in stainless.

I suppose the O ring is the way to go for now.

If the crossbolt safety stopped the trigger from releasing the hammer, it would be just fine, but it lets the hammer fall.
 
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244 ack was kind enough to make a suggestion that worked out real well for me.

As it turns out, the clicker spring that engages the safety is held in place by a simple set screw. That set screw can be snugged up to the point where the safety cannot move and can lock the safety in the off position.

All you need to do is remove the butt stock, so you can get at the screw. Then scrape out the lock tight from the set screw using a dental pick or sharp pointed object. Then set the safety to fire and snug up the set screw until the safety will not move. This takes up the back travel on the clicker spring so it cannot release.

This costs no money and essentially takes the safety out of play without mucking up the rifle.

If one day you want to use the safety, you can just loosen off the set screw and return it to factory functionality. But there may me a chance the sping dies from over compression and may need to be replaced. If you want to prevent this, you could just remove the spring first, but then you might loose it.
 
crazy_davey said:
I have ordered a pile of these from Clyde and they are great. The last time I contacted him he didn't want to send to Canada anymore because of the Paperwork :confused:(I don't remember exactly what his concern was). I had to convince him with extra cash to get a few more up here.

I had a bunch of pics with details that I have sent out here on how to make your own using the factory cross bolt. I am missing some of the pictures but if anyone is interested PM me and I can make one up and take more pics.
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I see what you did...
I wonder if one could leave it flush and then drill and tap it and add one of these:
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http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Detail.aspx?pid=560100&filter=560100&catid=0
 
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