Marlin 336 ejecting problem

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I have a new to me 336 in 35 rem, had it out yesterday for the first time and had some problems ejecting spent rounds. It would extract them from the chamber fine but instead of ejecting them out they just fell down on to the the lifter. I tried it with some live rounds and they seemed to eject fine but the spent rounds just flopped back down inside.

I did a visual comparison with my other 336 in 30-30 and extractor and ejector looked identical.

Was using hornady leverevolution ammo. Any ideas?
 
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The Hornady Lever Evolution in 35 Rem has had a lot of problems. (including mine)
Its seems there is too much free play in the tubular magazine and the gummy tips wedge between the rim of the casings and the magazine causing horrific jams.

This comment was taken from another forum.
Not sure the validity of it, but might be worth considering.
Maybe try some different ammo?
 
I don't think there is anything wrong with your rifle or with the ammunition you are using.
I will bet your rifle is perfect and operating the way Marlin intended it to operate.
When the rifle has fired and you open the lever, OPEN IT WITH A WHAM!!!! And the empty will go flying half way across the range.
Fiddle around with it, treat it ever so gently, and it will perform exactly as you describe.
 
H4831 said:
I don't think there is anything wrong with your rifle or with the ammunition you are using.
I will bet your rifle is perfect and operating the way Marlin intended it to operate.
When the rifle has fired and you open the lever, OPEN IT WITH A WHAM!!!! And the empty will go flying half way across the range.
Fiddle around with it, treat it ever so gently, and it will perform exactly as you describe.
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It is actually exactly the opposite as you describe, the 'WHAM' gave me the worst results. The rifle was cycled at different intensities of 'WHAM' from light to something might break to test exactly what you are saying and I got the worst results the harder I went.
 
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There are some pretty decent youtube videos on taking these 336's apart and getting
them back together.
I thought I saved them in my favorites list, but nay nay.
Do a little Google-Fu and you should be able to find them.
If not, send that gal to me and then I'll have Huey, Luey and Duey.
Luey should be here today...........w:h::dancingbanana:
 
freddyfour said:
It is actually exactly the opposite as you describe, the 'WHAM' gave me the worst results. The rifle was cycled at different intensities of 'WHAM' from light to something might break to test exactly what you are saying and I got the worst results the harder I went.
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Then it sounds like there is something wrong with the rifle.
I have to ask.
Did you take the rifle apart, perhaps for cleaning?
 
H4831 said:
Then it sounds like there is something wrong with the rifle.
I have to ask.
Did you take the rifle apart, perhaps for cleaning?
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The only thing I cleaned so far is the bore. Haven't taken anything apart as of yet, but it is a used rifle so I can not comment on the previous owner.

I'm going to track down some more ammo and give her another go hopefully on Monday. It looks like the extractor just lets go of the case before it hits the ejector. But like I said before everything looks the same as my 30-30.

kamlooky said:
Found one for you ff..........

http://youtu.be/JAP707phaao

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Thanks Looky:D
 
At the range, where I don't want the brass flying on the floor, I work the l lever slow and the case always falls off the extractor and ends up in the gun. A normal flip works it fine.
At a recent competitive shoot, a lady shooting a 336 had no end of trouble. When he got the chance, another shooter showed how a good snap got the case out with no trouble.
I imagine Marlin got the bolt face the right size, but it is a funny thing with 35 Remington cartridges. They use the standard 308/Mauser/30-06 shell holder, but the head size of the 35 is actually a bit smaller.
When using the press to prime, quite often, if the case isn't lined up properly in the sloppy shell holder, the primer catches the side and the case is flipped out of the shell holder, with marks on the case.
I would not be surprised if it did this with Lee shell holders, but it does it with RCBS.
However, I sure like the Marlin and I'm sure you will too.
I found out some interesting things about the 35. The rifle was made in 1957/58. When I bought the rifle it came with nearly a box of Dominion CIL ammo with the price of the shells written on the box with a felt pen, as was common in small, country stores. The price of the shells was $5.45. This would coincide with the age of the rifle!
So, I chronographed the old Dominion, 200 grain ammo. It did just over 2000 fps.
Then I loaded 200 grain bullets, using a maximum load from Hodgdon's on line, which stated the speed at 2110 fps. However, the chronograph showed them to be about 1900 fps!
I upped the powder by degrees, until I got just over 2,000 fps with a low extreme spread.
This seems like an accurate load, so I plan to stay with it, as a good, all around load.
The rifle, with a vintage Texas Weaver K3 scope, is very nice to shoot and it makes very nice groups.
 
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Once she is all settled out I am also thinking of a nice low powered scope for it. Will also start to get my loading supplies for her in a bit, are you using cast or jacketed bullets with your reloads? Have you tried any of the 220gr'ers at all?
 
I'm using Hornady 200 grain soft point (round nose.)
As you likely know, loading components are now hard to come by. I have ordered bullets, but have a pretty limited supply on hand.
I debated getting cast bullets. A well known, mom and pop operation make good bullets, but the cost, $60 for 200 gas checked, sized and lubricated bullets at their house, is almost as much as the Hornady's. Their cast 35 bullets are supposed to be 210, but they told me they are closer to 220.
When loading cast bullets a third die is usually used, to open the mouth a bit, so the bullet won't shave the lead. For minimum reloading, one can improvise some way to open the mouth of the case a little, but no matter how you do it, it will shorten the life of your brass. And since my supply is very limited, I will treat it gently, including annealing, plus using jacketed bullets, which require less working of the brass.
Let me know how you make out with your rifle.
Bruce
 
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