Marlin 45/70GBL Guide Gun.

The only recoil pads Ive really used are limbsaver, with a proper hold/mount you can shoot all day without feeling it. Just remember with any recoil-reducing pad/stock the key is to NOT pull it into your shoulder as this will defeat the recoil absorption. How is the overall quality/reliability of your GBL? Does it have all these factory defects I keep hearing about?

Seemed a bit stiff at first, but after oiling it up it seems to work fine. Its not like butter or anything, my browning BLR 30-06 and 22-250, are like butter. However, im no expert here, it seems to work fine, but I have nothing to compare it too as ive never owned a Pre Remington take over Marlin. The lever action does appear to be cheaper made, doesn't seem as rock solid as i had hoped.
 
While aperture sights are great and will shrink groups for most people, It has nothing to do with zeroing your sights. You said they are all going low right but how was the grouping? If theyre everywhere shoot off a rest and see, if it's still everywhere get a peep sight. But if it groups ok It's one of two things, either your sights need to be adjusted, or you have the flinch. It is a natural tendancy to pull the gun away from your face in the opposite direction as the muzzle flip before the gun goes off. I dont know if it's your first big bore but if so id bet it's the flinch. Also if it's a flinch they will all go low and wont group very well because of the erratic yank that happens within a split second before the shot.

As much as your shoulder will hurt you need to stabilize the gun properly on a bench with sandbags and take some very carefully placed shots, and never anticipate the shot. Always let it startle you somewhat, and just focus on the breathing the squeezing and the target. Offhand is an unreliable position to sight in from and your prone position looked like you couldnt get a good cheek weld and the stock was really low into your shoulder.

If they are still going south right, adjust the sights.
 
While aperture sights are great and will shrink groups for most people, It has nothing to do with zeroing your sights. You said they are all going low right but how was the grouping? If theyre everywhere shoot off a rest and see, if it's still everywhere get a peep sight. But if it groups ok It's one of two things, either your sights need to be adjusted, or you have the flinch. It is a natural tendancy to pull the gun in the opposite direction as the muzzle flip BEFORE the gun goes off. I dont know if it's your first big bore but if so id bet it's the flinch.

As much as your shoulder will hurt you need to stabilize the gun on a bench and take some very carefully placed shots, and never anticipate the shot. Always let it startle you somewhat, and just focus on the breathing the squeezing and the target. If they are still going south right, adjust the sights.


The groups were good just not where I was aiming, but im sure im pulling the gun a bit, cause i have a hard time keeping the sight on target as its hard to see, but all the low and to the right shots were together, dam near had a baseball sized hole there.
 
Yeah, try adjusting the sights. drift the rear leaf slightly left and up, and work on letting the gun go off without anticipating it. The best groups i've ever shot with my 444 i swear, every shot nearly gave me a heart attack. If you are waiting for the bang, you WILL pull it down and away.
 
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