Marlin 795 Trigger Mod *UPDATE*

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Hi,

I simply thought I would share the latest mod I've made on my Marlin 795.

For the one who don't know this great rifle.
Weight: 4,5lbs
Barrel: 18" not considered heavy barrel but it's pretty thick
Detachable 10 rounds mag works great
9 micro groove supposed to be adding to the precision I would say it works.
Last shot open, bolt release very compact and for 150-200$

I put a Nikon P-rimfire 2-7x32 BDC150 good scope for 200$ specifically for the price point of this rifle if you ask me.

So as many might know this is a great rifle, yes there is 10/22 and many others but if you want a light an reliable gun and if you're not into modifying your 22 this is a serious rifle to look at for the price point. The only downside owners of the 795 might agree is the trigger, it simply sucks.
So I bought the trigger guard kit by Diproduct, I had a little preference for the black guard and gold trigger but they offer different colors as well, it's fully adjustable to remove the over travel both before and after the trigger pull.
I also bought the Mcarbo sprig kit which will reduce the trigger pull from 6,75-7lbs down to 3,5-4lbs. You can find a video on youtube of the installation it's quite simple.
I installed the trigger kit and maaan! this is great and simple to install.
Now it's very similar to a single stage trigger and light as well.
I installed the spring kit before and saw the trigger pull is greatly reduced.I haven't shot it yet but so far I'm really satisfied, the trigger blade is wider and the guard is slightly larger which should accommodate when shooting with gloves during winter. it's crisp and can't wait to try it.

***UPDATE***
Went and shoot it, I realised the adjustment screw to remove the travel before shooting needs careful adjustment. I adjusted it and placed it back on seemed to be good with no delay I tighten up everything and realized the rear screw on the guard was moving everthing forward which was causing the screw to press on the firring pin mechanism. So when the action was moving it was firring sometimes and occasionally the trigger didn't reset. With a light hit on the stock it would reset. I reduced the length of the screw it has a bit more travel than what I wanted 1-2mm but now it's very reliable works everytime. I went shooting with my friend and he has the same in a blue bord stock with std trigger. After shooting both side by side I couldn't realize the over travel on mine since it's so much present in the original configuration. Overall it needed some adjustment but now it works very good very light very crisp. I couldn't go back to the original trigger. I don't see anything I would need to add on this rifle.










For the ones interested in buying the spring kit you can find it on amazon
http://www.amazon.ca/Marlin-795-Tri...=1456359598&sr=8-1&keywords=mcarbo+spring+795
For the Diproduct trigger guard kinneys imports it in canada
http://kinneysshootingsupply.com/collections/marlin-accessories


Just received the promag 25rds which have proven to be very reliable in the 795 of my friend.
 
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There are quite a few of us on here with 795s. Was sighting my Stainless 795 in today as I had switched scopes. Also took out my Delux 1022 which is reasonably accurate for a 1022. But the Marlin continues to out perform in this department. Have a Volquartzen hammer and sear in the 1022. Very nice trigger. But I was surprised that I didn't find the stock 795 that bad. Nice write up above and I may try it down the road.
 
I just placed my order for the Mcarbo spring replacement kit.Hopefully that rectifies my only complaint with the 795..,the worst trigger I have on any of the 25 22's I own,even my 30 year old Marlin is way better.I put a Boyd's thumbhole stock on the rifle and a nice scope so if this fixes it ,it should be a very nice rifle.I didn't get a new trigger,how much diference does it make?
 
ratherbefishin said:
I just placed my order for the Mcarbo spring replacement kit.Hopefully that rectifies my only complaint with the 795..,the worst trigger I have on any of the 25 22's I own,even my 30 year old Marlin is way better.I put a Boyd's thumbhole stock on the rifle and a nice scope so if this fixes it ,it should be a very nice rifle.I didn't get a new trigger,how much diference does it make?
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The trigger guard mod first is made of aluminium and bigger, I don't think it's a must since I simply use it for plinking and hunting but during winters I usually shoot with gloves so it's slightly bigger which is a plus for me. It does add a little bit of weight, and one big plus is the trigger itself, I've chosen the 3/8 wide trigger and it's very comfortable. You can adjust the travel before and after, on mine there is absolutely no over travel it's crisp.
Hope this answers your question.
 
Thanks....these mods just make so much sense,I just don't know why Marlin doesn't offer them,you would think Marlin Sales and Marketing would be aware of what Savage and Ruger are offering,and the cost of doing it at the factory have to be way less than buying the aftermarket upgrades ...I'm quite looking forward to seeing what the Mcarbo spring kit will do
 
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ratherbefishin said:
Thanks....these mods just make so much sense,I just don't know why Marlin doesn't offer them,you would think Marlin Sales and Marketing would be aware of what Savage and Ruger are offering,and the cost of doing it at the factory have to be way less than buying the aftermarket upgrades ...I'm quite looking forward to seeing what the Mcarbo spring kit will do
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One of my complaint was that when pulling the trigger you have a long way to pull before it fires and you don't really know when it will actually fire. I noticed by installing only the spring kit that not only the pull is reduced but it will also soften the travel before firing. i.e. you pull the trigger and know when the rifle will fire.
So only the spring kit is a great add on to the rifle.
 
I called Marlin and talked to their customer reprensentitive about any possable factory upgrades to the 795 trigger.He said there has been no discussion on it ,so that tells me the sales have not fallen or they would have upgraded it at the factory . Sales are everything so 'If it ain't broke don't fix it'
 
Yah,same here ...Let us know how easy/ dificult it is to install...I've watched the tutorial, but doing it for the first time is another matter.While I put a Boyd's thumbhole stock on it,I still have the original,filled with non expanding foam to stiffen it up..no brainer..
I'm going to be quite interested to see if this Mcarbo spring kit actually works,because I was going to sell my 795 ,I just didn't like shooting it with that trigger...it's worth $54 to see
 
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ratherbefishin said:
Yah,same here ...Let us know how easy/ dificult it is to install...I've watched the tutorial, but doing it for the first time is another matter.While I put a Boyd's thumbhole stock on it,I still have the original,filled with non expanding foam to stiffen it up..no brainer..
I'm going to be quite interested to see if this Mcarbo spring kit actually works,because I was going to sell my 795 ,I just didn't like shooting it with that trigger...it's worth $54 to see
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To be honest it's quite simple, I did have a little bit of try an error while putting everything back on but in 20-30 minutes taking my time it was done. They do include 2 of the critical springs (don't know how they call it) just in case you messed up on the first try, you need to bend it on the mechanism still I got it on the first try and i'm no gunsmith.

It will change things for sure and I must say the trigger guard add a lot to it i'm just in love.
Good luck and hope this helps.
 
I have 2 of the mcarbo spring kits in my model 60's, very happy with them and worth the money....the guy from mcarbo was great, followed up by email a few weeks after to ask if I had installed yet or any questions and if I was happy with the outcome....that was a first for me, following up on their product, outstanding customer service!
 
Nice job. I own one as well and did my own trigger job for basically free as I already had everything on hand. If you're mechanically inclined and enjoy working on your firearms its a very simple procedure. I've gotten mine down under 3lbs with nothing more than a floppy disk spring, metal polish, small sharpening stone and a dremel with a grinding stone. If you decide to do any of these mods do so at your own risk. I would however suggest not cutting a loop off the hammer spring and rather grind both ends flat to reduce length a little less than removing one loop.

Link to rimfire central for sear diagrams: http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=357575

Helpful video series from youtube:

[youtube]7QQc1DVe8L8[/youtube]
 
Hawkeye80 said:
Nice job. I own one as well and did my own trigger job for basically free as I already had everything on hand. If you're mechanically inclined and enjoy working on your firearms its a very simple procedure. I've gotten mine down under 3lbs with nothing more than a floppy disk spring, metal polish, small sharpening stone and a dremel with a grinding stone. If you decide to do any of these mods do so at your own risk. I would however suggest not cutting a loop off the hammer spring and rather grind both ends flat to reduce length a little less than removing one loop.

Link to rimfire central for sear diagrams: http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=357575

Helpful video series from youtube:

[youtube]7QQc1DVe8L8[/youtube]
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Thanks and great videos, I saw these prior to ordering the kit. Perfect if it works but I work in spring making and woundn't recommend stretching a spring like you did. The thing is that if you go too far on the elasticity of the spring it will loose force and will never come back. When a steel rod is bent they reach the point of elasticity and then do a heat treatment for specific time and temperature based on the wire type called stress relieving. This process will reorganize the grain (ie microscopic structure of the steel). If you bend a spring too far it will not be stable, stress added in the material so you might end up with a rifle shooting really light and will be lighter and lighter over time which might be dangerous in hunting situation or it might again loose force over time or break. Now that might not be as precise than what I'm used to work with which is valve spring for engines or suspension springs for cars but we're still talking about a firearm. If it works good for you but I did not feel comfortable with this idea and wouln't recommend this + the fact of voiding the warranty. Again if it works congrats!
 
In that video above you can see the scope mount he is using is the UTG Medium Profile for pellet guns. This mount really hangs on to the small groove that Marlin uses on this rifle. Regular scope rings tend to walk off that rail after a while. The UTG prevents that. $15. on Amazon. Definitely worth while.
 
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