Marlin Firearms Issues Ongoing Through 2012

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I was in the market for a Marlin SBL and had been looking forward this year to purchase one of these. I attempt to purchase one of these last year but was dissuaded by the salesperson as they had to return 90% of the Marlin firearms last year. However, it appears that Remington/Marlin have not got their act together as of yet. So it appears that it will be perhaps a couple of years before I can purchase one without too many issues.

I was inspecting a 1895GS at the Canadian Tire and found that the lever was unusually stiff and stagy. The trigger did not break easily – in fact I thought that the safety was on at first. I did not inspect the rest of the gun as it was enough to pass over.

I did email Remington soon after to inquire if the firearm was just a one off… here is their response.
“The firearms being turned out today are very much like the rifles of old. Our quality continues to improve and will only get better as we go. We have made many changes to our production machinery and processes that have led to seeing big changes in our end product.”

Not something that really inspires confidence in a Marlin, does it? I have decided to wait but if the itch get worse I might just get the Winchester 1886 which looks much more beautiful, though I did like the SBL simply for the utility.
 
Get a model 1886/71 Pedersoli - better quality - no lawyer safety junk like tang safeties or rebounding hammers - great walnut furniture - comes in .45-70 - really strong action.
The so-called Winchesters are made by Miroku of Japan, the same company that makes the Browning blr, and are really expensive.
If you want a Marlin 1895 Guide Gun look for an used "JM" Marlin made before 2007.
The new Remlins are junk.
 
Don't know much about the 1886's, but consider a pre remlin 1895 if you decide on a marlin.

The pre remingtons were a very good rifle, after the takeover they went to sxxt though.
 
Ordering from Elwood means not inspecting the rifle, and with the Marlins I want to inspect them myself. Also, with Elwood the keep a digital copy of your PAL on record. This is wrong for several reasons. Privacy and what if someone got themselves a copy of your PAL and recreated one. I will pass on Elwood when they change their policy. I don't mind showing my PAL but as they keep copies on record I will not be doing business with them.
 
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Ordering from Elwood means not inspecting the rifle, and with the Marlins I want to inspect them myself. Also, with Elwood the keep a digital copy of your PAL on record. This is wrong for several reasons. Privacy and what if someone got themselves a copy of your PAL and recreated one. I will pass on Elwood when they change their policy. I don't mind showing my PAL but as they keep copies on record I will not be doing business with them.
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This done now because of the stuiped CFO for Ontario. Instead of just recording all the info in the book, doing this is the same thing. So it's not a Ellwoods doing for themselves but there doing what the CFO is telling them to do. Same thing would happen if the book was taking. Also Ellwods inspects every Marlin before it's sold. Last time I went in they went throught all 5 308mx guns and refused to sell me because they were f***ed up. The guy told unless it can fired and empty is mag. without any problem the gun won't be sold and it will be shipped back. Don't know to many dealers that are doing that.

Also if your looking for 45-70 have a look at Henry. They just came out with one
 
Former Henry Owner

I bought my first Henry 30-30 on June 02, 2012. Took it to the range once (see other threads) primers were protruding on factory ammo. Plastigage on new brass revealed 0.074". Max = 0.070" Hmmmm. :confused:

Took it back to Cabelas for a replacement, Henry 30-30 of course. Again, primers protruded a bit with factory ammo. This time had bought heaspace gauges. It closed nicely with room to spare on the field gauge (0.070"). Hmmmm. :confused:

Took it back for yet another replacement. Took gauges with me. Replacement (in-store rifle failed...closed nicely on 0.070". Told them to shove it. It's their liability. For giggles, picked out first Marlin 336C I saw.

They went to the back and got me a brand new in-box rifle. Inserted the NoGo gauge. No way would the bolt close or the hammer release. Very tight rim headspace. Yup...it is a rough rifle and that trigger needs to be worked in. Wood fits nice. Action is a little tight. The front sight seems slightly out of index...but so was my former Henry's and the Winny I looked at on the shelf - concluded it was my eyeball. The hammer and trigger edges need to be honed down.

All in all...I was a happy camper. The bolt is well within spec.

GASP! I now own a 2012 Marlin 336C, and I am actually happy :D!

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I just purchased a new Marlin 1895GBL from Ellwood Epps and they did a inspection for fit and function before shipping to me. I am very happy with the quality and fit and finish on this rifle. It looks nothing like some of the bad examples I have seen people end up with.I was going to roll the dice and purchase one from one of the box stores but wanted to support one of the sponsors and they also were very responsive to my questions about current Marlin quality. They said have sold a lot of these rifles as of late and have had very few complaints so that was good enough for me. Real people selling real guns.

I did however roll the dice just before on a Ruger 10/22 carbine standard from Wholesale Sports and even after all of the bad reports on their quality I am very happy with the gun I received. The stock and butt plate needed a little smoothing but nothing major. The hardware was very good. I am going to replace the hammer, put a shim kit in and install a Tuffer Buffer and polish the bolt a little and its good to go.

Maybe with all the guns being returned they are finally getting the message Laugh2
 
Elwood Epps has been doing it even prior. There is no need to keep a digital copy of a PAL even in Ontario. There already was a ministerial advisory against it. But Elwood Eps has continued to violate this. They have been doing this as a store policy not as recommended by anyone and violates several privacy recommendations by the privacy commission.
 
I have a 2012 Marlin 1895 SBL. And it's actually fine. I inspected it and 2 others before I bought it. That only hitch I found was the stock has a slight gap were it fits behind the hammer.

I have fired it just less that 100 times now with factory and handloads with no issues. And cycled it probably another few hundred times with and without dummy rounds in it.

That action out of the box was fine and has gotten better with repeated use.

It's accurate too, 1inch groups at 100 yards.
 
DeusImperator said:
Elwood Epps has been doing it even prior. There is no need to keep a digital copy of a PAL even in Ontario. There already was a ministerial advisory against it. But Elwood Eps has continued to violate this. They have been doing this as a store policy not as recommended by anyone and violates several privacy recommendations by the privacy commission.
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Will they destroy your information ie digital copies of PAL, DL etc if asked??

I would also like to know if they encrypt all of the files so that even if security was breached that would not be an issue. Thats not that hard to do.

So I assume that there are no penalties for violating the privacy recommendations.
 
DeusImperator said:
Elwood Epps has been doing it even prior. There is no need to keep a digital copy of a PAL even in Ontario. There already was a ministerial advisory against it. But Elwood Eps has continued to violate this. They have been doing this as a store policy not as recommended by anyone and violates several privacy recommendations by the privacy commission.
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Ellwood Epps has never kept a digital copy of any customer's PAL on record. We are required to view a customer's PAL for their first purchase in order to ensure that they hold a valid firearms license. This policy is mandated by both the Ontario Chief Firearms Office, and by the current federal firearms legislation.

For off-site purchases, we ask that the customer send us a copy of their license so that we can make this provenance, but that copy is shredded and is not kept on file.

With the volume of customers we deal with in a single year, do you really think that we would have the room to store copies of every single customer's PAL?
 
I have a 1895 XLR in 45-70 purchased post Remington, and it's been a great gun so far. I've shot a couple brands of ammo through it (Remington and Winchester) and I've also run handloads. The only problem I've EVER had was that it didn't chamber a round once, and it was factory ammo. Just had to cycle the action over and all was good again.

The complaint that I would put forward is that the edges of the lever are hard on the hands because they are pretty sharp. If it really bothered me that much I guess I'd smooth them out, but haven't been compelled to thus far. The action has gotten better as I've put rounds through it, and I LOVE the calibre. Nothing quite like the thump of a 45-70, and reloading the calibre is dead simple.
 
Finch said:
I have a 1895 XLR in 45-70 purchased post Remington, and it's been a great gun so far. I've shot a couple brands of ammo through it (Remington and Winchester) and I've also run handloads. The only problem I've EVER had was that it didn't chamber a round once, and it was factory ammo. Just had to cycle the action over and all was good again.

The complaint that I would put forward is that the edges of the lever are hard on the hands because they are pretty sharp. If it really bothered me that much I guess I'd smooth them out, but haven't been compelled to thus far. The action has gotten better as I've put rounds through it, and I LOVE the calibre. Nothing quite like the thump of a 45-70, and reloading the calibre is dead simple.
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x 2 on both counts. I sold mine on account of it not being able to shoot the commercial cast that I have. But it could sure shoot the lighter jacketed bullets like I've never seen before. The most important part was that the action was strong, well within SAAMI specs and really did smoothen out after a few rounds.

I borrowed an older Winny '94 and am really not that impressed.

I am thinking of getting a 45-70 in a Marlin for the silhouette, just not sure.

Marlin really, after the experiences I have had over the last month with levers...is really a pretty good rifle, I have to admit.
 
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