Marlin Guide Guns - Show off your baby!

Norinco has a copy of that exact gun comming to market next year. Parts should be enterchangeble. Just like the 870.
 
Teapot said:
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Looks like they filled the checkering with stock finish. It really does take away from an otherwise nice gun. No checkering is better than bad checkering.

I bought a CZ shotgun last year that looked the same. :mad: Eventually, I will have to have the checkering cleaned out. :(


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Silverado said:
On this topic, does anybody else have a GG with the pistol grip stock?
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early Guide Guns did have pistol grip stocks and levers...I've seen a couple.
One at the last gunshow here.

The Marlin I'm looking for is the early 22" model with straight grip....
 
7 REM MAG said:
how much do the guide guns cost for a stainless barrell and action with a 22" barrell
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Guide Guns are only available with an 18-1/2" barrel...the stainless version are $700 at Wholesale Sports....the Marlin XLR has a 22" barrel and laminate stocks with pistol grip...they are about $800 I think.
 
ruger22 said:
what kind of bullett is a 350 FN?
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It's a 350gr jacketed made by Hornady with a Flat Nose, a great bullet very similar to the 350gr Round Nose, but a little better suited, I feel, to a tubular magazine. Another I've found that works really well for me in my 1895 Marlin GS .45-70 is the Speer 400gr Flat Nose Soft Point. I have yet to 'try' these bullets in my .458wm.
 
The 400gr Speer has a very light jacket construction and you are advised to be careful about impact velocity. I'd load it to around 1500-1600 fps MV max.

I loaded some to 1800 fps MV and that seemd like a pretty decent load, but 2 years ago I shot a black bear at a range close range and those bullets just absolutely blew up.
The jackets literally turned inside out. There was just fragments of lead left.

I think the Remington 405gr is superior to the 400gr Speer.

I have loaded 400gr Hawk bullets and these look like a pretty good bullet. I've fired these loaded to the same 1800 fps MV into sand and they have held together, just to check them out.

But I downloaded these to ~ 1650 fps MV. I have yet to shoot a bear with one to test the performance.
 
Demonical said:
The 400gr Speer has a very light jacket construction and you are advised to be careful about impact velocity. I'd load it to around 1500-1600 fps MV max.

I loaded some to 1800 fps MV and that seemd like a pretty decent load, but 2 years ago I shot a black bear at a range close range and those bullets just absolutely blew up.
The jackets literally turned inside out. There was just fragments of lead left.

I think the Remington 405gr is superior to the 400gr Speer.

I have loaded 400gr Hawk bullets and these look like a pretty good bullet. I've fired these loaded to the same 1800 fps MV into sand and they have held together, just to check them out.

But I downloaded these to ~ 1650 fps MV. I have yet to shoot a bear with one to test the performance.
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Accuracy wise, and with some of the medium tests I've tried, the 400gr Speer at the manual listed loads has performed better than most others in my Marlin 1895 GS. For my requirements using jacketed bullets, the two that have performed the 'best' are the Speer 400gr Flat SP and the Hornady 350gr FP. If, as you say, you've had 'problems' with the 400gr Speer holding together at .45-70 velocities, you may want to bring that to the attention of the tech people at Speer. I've consulted them on a couple of occasions on similar questions and they've been extremely helpful. However, checking out loads listed for that particular bullet in the .458wm, I note they 'boot' it out at a max velocity of 2429 f/sec. That being the case, it should do well at .45-70 velocities.;)
 
I use the 400 grain Speer flat point in my .45-70 GG. The accuracy is astounding with 56 grains of Varget - drops moose real well too.
 
Rembo said:
Guide Guns are only available with an 18-1/2" barrel...the stainless version are $700 at Wholesale Sports....the Marlin XLR has a 22" barrel and laminate stocks with pistol grip...they are about $800 I think.
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The XLR has a 24", the 1895 has the 22" and the guide gun has 18.5".

I considered getting a XLR in 444 and cutting the barrel to 18.5" to have the curved pistol grip and stainless, as the 444P was discontinued - this is the "outfitter" which is identical to the guide gun buy in 444 with an extra round in the mag.

Luckily I found a minty 444P here, so I didn't have to do anything so drastic. :cool:
 
Brownell'a in the Sates carry them for $89.95 USD each, and well worth every penny.
I bought 200 of the Kodiak 350 gr. bonded cores from a chap in Alaska on Ebay last year. They look and shoot like the Hornady's, and you use the same load data too. The heavier jacket and the bonded core made it impossible for me to blow one up. These were factory cosmetic blems, so they were deeply discounted. I looked awfully hard, and I couldn't find any serious faults, and shoot as accurate as the Hornadys.

Ricky
 
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